I'm assuming most will advocate limping unless you're raising to balance your pre-flop raising range, but that is also open for discussion.

I like to be 100bb or deeper, with most limpers having at least 100bb. Is that too shallow? At what stack size do you take small suited connectors out of your LP pre-flop calling range?

Let's assume your average loose pre-flop, passive post-flop $1/2 game. I'm also interested to hear how these hands play in both more aggressive and less aggressive (post-flop) games. I'd personally be more likely to play them as the aggression level of the table increases.

How does your table image affect your decision? Are you more likely to play them if you've been card dead for 2 hours, or if you are on a sick heater?

P.S. I got the idea for this thread from this thread, which I think will be moved to BBV very soon. Mods - if you decide not to move that thread, then just merge this into it.

Like i said on other thread, stack size is a long way from the only important factor. If you are playing in a game where other players ridiculously under bet pot on all streets/are total stations on flop and turn but will fold to big river bets in limped pots etc/your image (and how many people at the table notice)

If you are anyway good post flop you should be able to play all sc at 100bb deep in limped pots v typical 1/2 live donks. If you are not you should be playing them to practice your post flop game in a situation where the limp itself is definitely not horrid and only marginally.

You can beat these games without playing these hands, you are not maximising your EV IMO.

I usually look for 15-20:1 odds on my $. Also villain dependent. So if limped around in 1/2 game and I have $40 I'll play. 100BB is way to tight IMO.

The smaller the connector, the more stack to bet ratio you need. I believe that if most 1/2 and 2/5 player threw away every SC 65 and below, they'd make more money in a capped game.

Too deep isn't that great with scs. You have heavy reverse implied odds if you hit your flush because 1/2 and 2/5 players limp every possible face + low flush card hand. It's almost impossible get stacks in 100bb+ deep with just 5 high flush in a multiway limped pot and expect it to be good.

That is why hand reading is key, as well as understanding your opponents and how they value their hands.

You bring up an interesting point.

Is is it possible to be so deep that the suited part of small suited connectors becomes less valuable because you'll be less likely to call large bets/win showdowns where the pot is very large with a small flush? Is there an ideal stack size that is not too large and not too small where playing small sc's is most profitable? Thoughts?

s.boxer/rambler1, this is why it's good to raise SC when playing deep stack so players don't limp in with hands like J6s/Q6s/K6s.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting overflushed when 100bb deep but when you get to 200+bb deep, then it's time to worry and to be more aggressive with not only your huge hands but with your speculative hands as well.

Also, the deeper your stacks, position position position.

Having a good read on how game flows is also good.

100 bb is plenty deep at 1/2 or 1/3. When really deep you might wanna raise a little to build a little pot from LP, (if there is little chance of getting 3bet).

Limping is okay if blinds are really loose, but if you're deep I'd recommend raising limpers. Definitely open raise if you're folded to.

The reason you want to raise when deep is because your hand has massive reverse implied odds if you see the flop 6-7 way 200-300bbs deep. You will make bottom two pair or hands like mid pair and OESD that is difficult to play with action multiway. Even if you flop 456 with 67s with a flush draw, giving you oesd, flush draw, and top pair, you're going to be hesitant to stack off multiway as you will be facing a nut flush draw AND a made straight, or set, a lot of the time.

Weak suited connectors playing well multiway is a sort of a myth. Hands like A2s QTs play way better multiway because you have good backdoor equity with all your pairs and nobody is holding a gun to you not letting you fold top pair, so things like "oh you will get tied to your hand" are logical fallacies. You won't be tied to your hand if you fold, duh.

Raise, play your hand IP, take free cards, bet for value, or pot control. EZ game.

I would say it depends on your table if you're talking about 1/2. If it is way passive pre and not too many raises then 75-100BB+ is probably fine to limp in with. If it is aggressive pre then you may want to be a lot deeper and you'll want to raise some of these IP.

Folding is not an option. I don't know what live games you are playing with, but IP with a hand like this, it's hard NOT to make money regardless of whether you call or raise in this spot.