Live $1-3 nlhe ($100-$300) 10 handed..Friday night casino. Hero late 20's sat down left to villain greated each other.. Hero bought in min and villain is a lady in 40's. She has around $160ish.. Very first hand. Hero raises to $12 from button with A10 spades to CO limp. Villain calls.
Pot($28) flop Qh 6h 9s. Villain check calls a cbet of $20.

Pot (68). Turn Qs .. Villain checks..hero jams after thinking for 5 secs.. Villain insta calls.. River blanked

Villain shows 6d7d.. Hero muck.

My advice is let the fish buyin for 30BB. If you're too under-rolled to buy in deeper, I wouldn't waste my money on a bluff.

Spew. Play tighter with 30BB. Take the free card in the turn.

+1...check turn and check river if you don't hit

Then if the river blanks & villain checks?.. I just had a pot size bet remaining and felt its free money in the pot when she checked for second time.. Put her on draw, 9x or 6x or gutters which I thought would fold more than 50 % of the time. I had two over cards + nut flush.. Felt its OK to get it in... But her snap call was interesting.. I think it was better to fold pre or do a delayed cbet on turn.

Is it norm to be sticky with a pair when the board pairs in live poker?..

That's normal in all forms of poker for people to be sticky when they hit a pair heads-up. You were just guessing that they were on a draw. If you're going to play starting with 30BB....only play premiums. You can expand your range as you get deeper and start to get a better grasp on the game.

If CO is only limper then I would raise to $16+ (i.e. 10% of stacks) so that I can stack off on TP postflop.

I would cbet less, like 1/2 PSB. She's most likely either calling any reasonable bet or she's not, so lets do this for as cheap as possible.

Next time, try not to include results as it will skew results. I typically check back the turn when I pick up equity because I'm pretty cool with just trying to realize that equity and get paid off, plus it's hard to get people to fold. However, this is a nice scare card and it could easily be in our range, so I don't hate a bet (although I would only do 1/2 PSB so that it rarely has to work to be profitable), especially if we feel we're never getting check/raised. Again, posting the results really skews things, but obviously she is a calling station that never folds, in which case we should bet as small as possible with our whiffed flop cbets, and then shut down until we actually make a hand (where we can then take her to town).

ETA: Didn't realize we started with just $100 (30bbs); any reason for that? Have to really tighten up because we have 0 FE with this stack size.

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+1... Interesting.. I thought, it screams strength..when the initial raiser bet again when the turn pairs since its a bad turn card to double barell bluff.. And how often a guy bluffs of his entire stack off on his very first hand at the table?.. So most of us, will call this turn jam if ur the villain ???

Sure, why not? Your jam was a PSB, V has a pair, and the Q just hit again making it more likely that you don't have it. V only has to be right here 1/3 of the time.

Really not the best card to double barrel on, which you mention, but does it scream strength? Would you really push AI with a queen? Or would you rather split your bet into 2 pieces to commit the other player? It screams "Go Away" to me.....

If river bricks and V checks to us we check back. We beat a lot of hands...

Wouldn't people play the same way on low limits with over pairs?. i mean KK+ . i was never repping Q here. Got your point though. So from now on this level, push when board pairs on the turn and checked to us.. coz people put you on bluff and never getting off a pair!!! ?.

Unfortunately, there are no "one size fits all" answers to this game. However, this is indeed why you will see so many posters on here advocating that you bet your best hands in LLSNL rather than getting all FPS and trappy. Many, many villians at this level will be VERY sticky with a pair.

Further on, though, you really want to get to know your Vs as well as you can. This is valuable knowledge to have when playing this particular V. Make your hand and take her on the train to Valuetown. You can bet very thin edges with this V.

+1 ... Missed this post. I'm pretty new to live poker even though i played a ton of hands online. So last time when i visited casino, game was super wild. So this time bought in small so that i can shove over the top of wild preflop raisers with decent hand ranges. Idea was to buyin to max later based on the table.

CO was the only limper. The reason i raised pf to just 3bb is to fold to any 3 bet from blinds easily. 1/2 psb bet seems good idea. now i think it was better to check flop and bet the turn and not to inflate the pot.

Another reason why i posted this hand is coz she turned out to be more on nit end. Her range was mostly pairs, sc, top end of broadway cards that too suited. I think people are not folding to a pair on turn when the board pairs and is putting people on bottom of there ranges.

I was so surprised that most people agreed its a call to my shove!!!

Thanks for the reply. As mentioned in my post above this, she turned out to be on nittish end. Initially, i was thinking that i got a station on my right and bought in for max after this hand. I think she dont fold to aggression when board pairs and she think KK+ is going to bet small to squeeze out more and any pair below Q's are checking behind on the turn.

Seems like a standard "don't bluff because they put you on AK" spot.

Yeah 99% of people at 1/3 do not think like this.

If you're going to buy-in for the minimum you shouldn't really look for bluffing spots. You don't have the stack to get people to fold.

results oriented thinking in this thread imo. we still got 16 outs, and yes, we do have FE. there is in no way guaranteed that villain will call with his actual hand, if he does, we still win over 1/3 of the time, and there are a lot of draws villain could call otf we are ahead of.

good play imo, mandatory shove

Well, to be fair, there were only actually 3 answers to the OP before the OP asked a new question and steered the topic away from the hand itself....

I personally had not much to say about the hand, I think it played itself from the raise preflop. One could, of course, get into a whole nother discussion about SS strategy, and whether AT suited or unsuited should ever be a part of it, but one could also find plenty of posts about both sides of that argument on this very forum.

Oh I missed we picked up a flush draw. I hate the shove less but still hate it. This hand just becomes way more difficult because you bought in for the minimum. Which still boggles my mind especially since after this hand you bought in for the max. I'd feel a lot better barreling this turn for $65 with $200 behind than jamming for the same amount.

Imo you'd be better off assuming everybody at 2/5 and below under the age of 50 hates folding until you get a decent read.

One question I was trying to understand is how often players @ 1/2 or 1/3 hero calls this.. How many here will call this shove?. If its more than 50% I am never shoving from now on at this level with a draw and is always shoving with an overpair to a random guy with a PSB left..

Yeah.. I felt I have good fold equity & expected a random old lady to fold more than 50%. BTW..I felt I had just 13 outs (9+2+2).. How do u come up with 16?

Troll?... These plays never work at live low stakes?.. I am new to live poker

Your outs should actually be 8 spades (not the 6, although we don't know that) + 3 As + 3 Ts + 3 9s (although we don't know that either), for a total of 17 outs.

Our equity here is 38.4%, as sauhund pointed out, just slightly over the 33% necessary to make this a break even play.

why r u in for 33bb? buy in for 100, otherwise don't play.

turn jam was spew, should checkdown unless you spike an A

Sry got it wrong.. 9 spades + 3 non spade aces + non spade 10's = 15 outs.. So around 30% equity.. I excluded 9's as 9x was in his range before I moved in..