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10-19-2014 , 12:11 PM
2/5 game live action.

I went too deep on a couple of hands and lost a big pot. Tilt. I start playing more hands. NI means Not Involved later.

B straddle 10.
SB 425. Call
BB (NI) Call
UTG1 (NI) Call
UTG2 fold
UTG3 (NI) Call
MP1 1,300. Call
MP2 fold
HJ1 fold
Hero 435. 7,9 DD Call
CO 700. Raise 80 to go.
B fold
SB Call
BB fold
UTG1 fold
UTG3 Call
Hero Call
Pot 350.
Flop Jd 9c 3d

Check to CO raise 120
BB Call
UTG3fold
Hero Call
Pot 710
Turn Jd 9c 3d Ks

Check to CO Bets 225
BB folds
Pot 935
What should hero do? CO is LAG
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10-19-2014 , 12:22 PM
You have 40% of your stack invested. I think you just need to go with it. I think I'm check raising all in with your stack size and the pot. If your not going to rip it in when you hit the flop like this you should fold pre. $80/$435 to see a flop and fold when you flop a pair and flush draw would be a big leak.

My guess is you called it off and lost to Kx?
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10-19-2014 , 12:48 PM
1. Fold pre
2.as played shove flop
3. As played you have to GII it's like $230 to win $930

This hand is played really bad - river discussion is a waste of time ... You should never be in this spot
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10-19-2014 , 07:13 PM
I call, river 6d. CO has Qs, 10c. Hero rakes pot. I had him on top pair, two pair. I had SB on Fl draw with higher kicker. I had SB on fl draw, better kicker.

I should have not been in the hand? I explained at the start I was playing a lot of hands. This is what I mean about online being different than live. There were a lot of pots huge pots won by players who you say should have not been in the hand. There was one guy at the table raising 110. off his straddle, repeatedly. He had a pocket full of $500 chips.

Last edited by TNHillbilly; 10-19-2014 at 07:14 PM. Reason: repeated myself
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10-19-2014 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kennydawgg
You have 40% of your stack invested. I think you just need to go with it. I think I'm check raising all in with your stack size and the pot. If your not going to rip it in when you hit the flop like this you should fold pre. $80/$435 to see a flop and fold when you flop a pair and flush draw would be a big leak.

My guess is you called it off and lost to Kx?
This sounds like good advice. This is the kind of thinking I am trying to reach.
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10-19-2014 , 08:03 PM
If you don't know what to do with a pair and a flush draw after calling a 3 bet short stacked you need to work on the basics. You should of folded pre flop and jammed flop. As played it is the worst line possible.
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10-19-2014 , 10:18 PM
This is the perfect flop for someone in a tilted state. Just rip it all-in on the flop. Sometimes in multiway all ins we can be in rough shape but in general we are going to be in good shape and we aren't that deep.
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10-20-2014 , 10:12 AM
You said your were on tilt because you went too far in some hands. Well, you went too far in this hand too. Congrats on the win, but continued play like this is a beeline to busto.

Fold pre. There's a straddle and like 20 limpers, so the pots way bloated. Even if your limp gets around, you'll likely be pot-commited with any play beyond the flop. This is not where you want to be when playing such a speculative, easily dominated hand as sooted middling one-gapper.

Limping the straddle is just terribad awful fish play. The best you can hope to achieve with this play is seeing a flop with 3/4 of the table, meaning the flop better hit you right between the eyes, but with 3 or 4 peeps left to act, including a known lag, chances are good someones going to attack that juicey pot and punish the fishy limpers.

Limp-calling 10% of your stack with a hand like this is just...whoo! Where'd you say you played again?

No offense, but your best bet is to drop back down to the kiddie pool (1/1, 1/2) and work on your fundamentals. Playing like this is just chumming the water.
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10-30-2014 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kennydawgg
You have 40% of your stack invested. I think you just need to go with it. I think I'm check raising all in with your stack size and the pot. If your not going to rip it in when you hit the flop like this you should fold pre. $80/$435 to see a flop and fold when you flop a pair and flush draw would be a big leak.

My guess is you called it off and lost to Kx?
The advice kind of stung, but I listen. Next day, 1-2 game 7c, 9c. called $6 pre flop. Flop 9d, 5c, 2c. $30 in the pot, I get weak player all in. Turn 8h. River 3h Pair 9's win $230. It gets a lot better. I start raising and taking down small pots with nothing.

A few hands later I have the nut straight holding K 10. Board 6,9,Q,J,8 no flush. Pot 240 Hero bets 200 Villain takes five minutes to decide, even turns hand over showing he has two pair Q,9. Finally calls. He explains he called because I had only shown 7-9.

So thanks.
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10-30-2014 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TNHillbilly
I should have not been in the hand? I explained at the start I was playing a lot of hands. This is what I mean about online being different than live. There were a lot of pots huge pots won by players who you say should have not been in the hand. There was one guy at the table raising 110. off his straddle, repeatedly. He had a pocket full of $500 chips.
There is nothing wrong with playing LAG in live cash games. But, a loose passive will lose money hand over fist. The only way that a LAG wins is because of the aggression. The aggression will force better hands to fold.

In this hand, people are suggesting that you fold preflop because you are investing over 10% of your stack with a hand that needs to hit the perfect flop to win. 1 pair will rarely win and your flush draw/str8 draws could be dominated.
If you jam the flop, you realize some fold equity from better hands and considering you will unlikely get paid if your flush hits, you need to play this hand very fast.

I use this style very effectively but it does come with a lot of variance. Make sure your bankroll can handle it.

GL..
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10-30-2014 , 04:14 AM
Shove flop every time. Easy game.
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10-30-2014 , 08:09 AM
kind of fail thought process from OP about playing every hand because others do and they're winning...

my 666 post
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02-28-2015 , 10:02 AM
I came back to reread this post. Akk, but I was trying. Game has come a long way since then and I realize I did not have a clue. Now, I wonder how I am going to feel about this level of my game in a year.
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03-01-2015 , 09:24 PM
Wow, wow, wow...not check shoving flop is terribad here.
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