2/5 Hero Just moved from the Just move table - UTG - $1200
Max buyin at the table is 1000

MP- Old man (400)- I have about 3 sessions of history with this old man who loves , loves loves calling/limping Aces Preflop. He’s only aggro with KK/QQ/JJ preflop and limps everything else... as said even AA. He’s a losing player and it’s super easy to fold against him when I know I’m beat. He’s floated me a few times with unknown holdings when I Cbet and will take it away from me on the turn. He usually buys in for 600-800. To see him at 400 means he’s taken damage before I sat down and hasn’t reloaded yet.

On to the hand.

Hero sits down 1st hand and looks down at KK and raises to $35. (These games bets get called multiway a lot between the 20-25 range, I thought if I was going to be OOP, what better hand then to raise with)

7 people call... including MP old man LMAO!

Pot: 245

On to the flop: K99

I’m obviously relieved that I don’t need to think much, just how do I get stacks in.

Checks to hero: I Cbet 45. Logic was, even with my second nutted hand I still want to look like I wiff this board.

MP calls, all Else fold.

Pot: 335

On to the turn: J

K99J

Hero checks. I actually thought this was a fantastic card for villains range and would hope he takes it away from me now.

Thoughts? Was my Cbet to light , do we hate the bet entirely 7 handed?

Nice flop against the world, lol.

Yeah, i am not in love with the C-bet. We have this pot locked down and smashed into pieces, so i see huge value in letting the world all seing the turn with their combined equity.Let somebody hit a set with their 44. Let somebody catch a straight with J10 or Q10. Let somebody turn a flushdraw that an aggrotard is trying to buy the pot with.

Just the fact alone that we try to let 7 people see a turn here (and its alot of cards that they combined can hit to make a hand they are gonna stackoff with), is fantastic for our hand and our possible EV outcome of the hand. If 9x is out there on the flop, they are gonna go broke on the majority of turncards anyway if it does get checked all around.


As played i want to check this to the tricky old man. Chances are that he is trapping with something like trip 9, or that the turn was good for him, so after your weak very small C-bet i like playing in flow like you are giving up on the pot on the turn now and giving him green light to bet.

C bet size is fine. It should be on the smaller size if you choose to do it. I'm checking here 8 ways because I'd be checking all my other hands except probably 2 others in this spot. As played check the turn.

What are the other stack sizes of all the other callers in this hand?

If we are $1k deep with most of the callers, not betting bigger on the flop seems quite bad. With so many people seeing a flop, the likelihood that we have coolered somebody with 9x is greater than usual, and I'd be sizing to get their stack in by the river. (By the way, if you got 7 callers, shouldn't the flop pot be $280?)

This is the kind of flop where I think no matter what we do, if we end up betting big on the river we are representing almost exactly what we have. So I'd rather try to get some significant bets in when people might still think we are bluffing, and maybe we can stack someone who feels pot-committed with trips.

On the flop more or less anything is fine. A bigger bet won't get called as much but insures a big pot when it does get called. Pot is already so bloated a check is fine also.

Given villain description slowing down on the turn is probably the highest EV but doesn't make a lot of difference. No matter what you do your hand looks like AK+ and even a bad villain won't try to take it away here much. Still, with villain's low SPR it doesn't matter when villain does have 9X, all of the money is going in. Might as well give the other hands a chance to catch up or try and take it away.

I'm either checking the flop or betting larger. The tiny bet doesn't make me think you whiffed; it makes me think you want callers. I'd probably check it. I think any bet into seven people just can't be called weak by any stretch of the imagination.

You say V has previously floated you with unknown holdings and then taken it away from you on the turn. If his holdings were unknown, how do you know he was floating and not just having a better hand? I don't see anything in description that says he's tricky, other than the AA thing.

Given description of V, I think I prefer leading the turn. If the turn goes x/x, I don't want to have to shove 320 into the 335 pot. I'd rather make two smaller bets to gii.

Furthermore, we're against the best of seven hands against us. I think there's a pretty good chance V has a hand he's willing to go with. Let's let him go with it.

But I don't think checking is bad. We get more if he doesn't have anything but will bluff by checking. I think we get more with two smaller bets if he has something decent, but not that he's going to want to call a 320 shove with.

I sort of like checking this flop with 7 other players in. I want everyone to see one more so there's more of a chance someone will call us. I think a K or 9 bets for us anyway.

AP, I think I lead here small like 95. If he has a piece, he's not going to fold, but he might take a free card if we check.