1/3 NLHE 9 handed

V - BTN Covers. Loose passive asian whale that has been on a heater. Played a few hours with him and he calls super wide pre especially IP. 20$ pre with 64o, any BWs, shown down A7o, etc. Opens for large sizing with premiums. Never seen him 3-bet pre. Post he calls down wide but lately he just keeps getting there.

H - 400 SB. Should have a tighter image. Having a tough session. Card dead, then open KcKs, 4 callers Flop Ad 7d 3h and people bet out and have to check fold. Been like this all day.

HH with V (would like advice) - Beginner player opens SB to 20 over V BTN straddle, I 3bet AQo from LJ (maybe a bad idea looking back at how tight this guy was) 5 callers including V on BTN and opener in SB. Flop 9-5-5r x x I check x V bets 100 into 180 everyone folds, V shows 77.

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V limps MP, 2 more limps in LP, I open 20 from SB off 400$ with A Q, only V calls.

Flop 40 - K 5 5

I lead 30, V calls

Turn 100 - Q

I check, V checks

River 100 - 9

I check (?), V bets 80, Hero?

I would bet-fold the River small, about 40% pot, targeting ace-highs and mid-pocket pairs, QJcc/QTcc type of hands. Folding to a raise (no one bluff-raises rivers in LLSNL, and, even if not, this is a spot where bluffing is suicidal.)

I think if you do check, though, you’re doing it to call any <pot-sized bet, so I would follow through with the call. But I think check-calling is a lot worse than bet-folding.

In order….

Bet-fold
(GAP)
Check-call
(SMALL GAP)
Check-fold
(HUGE GAP)
Bet-call

The HH hand seems fine to me (and fine from V as well)

This hand also seems alright, if this guy is very loose passive and just calls down with trash then the big bet on the flop might not be as good as it might be against better opponents. Potentially a smaller sizing can keep in some worse Ax hands...look, a big bet on K55 can't be terrible.

Turn check feels the correct play now.

River is probably a close decision between betting small yourself and checking. He has the green light to blast so it really should be with the intention of calling any non-ridiculous size. I might be inclined to bet (-fold) this for a small size? Not sure.

I'd iso larger pf.

Flop you can check or bet small. Betting big doesn't make much sense with your range or the range you're targeting for villain. Like do you really want to bet big w/ AA, KK, AK, TT-JJ?
And you want villain to call w/ stuff like AJ and 66.

Rest of the hand looks fine, river is tough because I'm having trouble finding bluffs on his line when he calls a big bet on K 5 5r and checks back turn and bets river. This is pretty often something like KJo/KTo/K7s

I would probably just flip a coin, but in game probably make a crying call.

As described, this V sounds like he can't resist betting when action gets checked to him and he thinks we can steal.

Think we have to call here.

So he's super loose and calls a lot, but what are his betting tendencies post flop? That's really the important info here. I think it's 50/50 call or fold.

I'm inclined to call here because he probably has some calls with nothing on flops if he's playing that many hands preflop. You have the worst second pair, and for at least every 5 or K he's likely to have a worse Q, a bluff, or some pocket pair IMO.

I think bet-folding 2/5 pot as value in some cases and protection in others makes a ton of sense.

Result:

Not to be that guy, but this is just a tell, not a reverse tell. Acting disinterested would be a reverse tell if he was bluffing. Staring at you intensely would be a reverse tell if he was strong.

Probably a good fold, with the benefit of having that tell.

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bet 10-15% pot otr., maybe more towards 20-25 depending how call happy he is. (would likely call a raise vs a described asian whale if i took this line). flop is likely a mistake sizing wise and possibly decision wise too - its unlikely he ever folds a better hand to one bet and you have all of his air beat, in some cases very badly if he has ax / qx so you either want to c/c down or bet small for some amount of thin value and then go into c/c. had u bet smaller otf id be alot more excited to call the river. feels like a trend in your threads is when you're oop with weak sdv in srp you just panic and bet big / try to make them fold and usually its the wrong hand class for it. as played idk man. on one hand his line is credible for how a bad player would play good hands, on the other hand you likely never have a better hand when you bet this size otf and then check turn and river so like do we really want to fold our entire range to a whale whos probably playing the bottom 80% of hands here pre?

also pre is too small

Looking at the line again, I'd prefer a check on this static flop. If V checks back, we can make a delayed c-bet on turn.

This check-bet-bet line keeps our range strong, whereas bet-check-check looks kind of weak, and will induce aggression from opponents.

Played a similar hand recently, where the PFR c-bet into two opponents on a K66r flop. My first thought was that he had AA, 6x, 77-QQ, and maybe AK, but never KK.

If he checked back on turn, I'd have stabbed any brick river. If I was IP and he checked to me twice, I'd be stabbing almost any card.

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I am snap calling the main hand, although I probably bet river myself around $50.

For the HH hand, how big did you 3bet? I do approve of the 3bet. Getting called in all those spots and getting a horrible flop is just bad luck. Not much you can do except fold and 3bet bigger next time.

(FWIW, I had almost the exact same hand today online. I 3bet AQ, guy calls from BB and leads 2x pot on flop of 55T -- he shows 77. Weird.)