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10-28-2017 , 06:03 PM
Hey everyone so I just lost a couple buy ins and I could use some feedback. This session really made me rethink my game.

Hand 1:
Hero dealt AA in MP. I open to $12 and get 3 callers.

Flop: QT6
V1 checks. Hero bets $35. V2 and V3 fold. V1 jams $155. I have him covered and call it off.

Turn: Brick

River: Brick

Villain shows T6

Thoughts about this hand: Villain is an average reg whose loose passive. I guess in hindsight maybe I can bet/fold this to his aggression? QT suited and sets were definitely something I was worried about. I didn't expect him to show up with bottom two here because why would he call $12 pre with T6 suited? I guess I need to put villain on a wider range?


Hand 2:
Hero dealt JJ in MP and opens to $15. 3 callers.

Flop: 1055
V1 (Same Villain in last hand) checks to me. I bet $45. Folds around to V1 who jams $135. I call it off.

Turn: Blank

River: Blank

Villain shows Q5

Thoughts: I guess I should fold here? Villain did the same thing to me the last hand, his Check/Raise range is strong I guess. I guess a 10 would just flat call. I guess I didn't really think about his range here and just called it off because JJ is at the top of my range versus a preflop flat? Plus I thought most 1/2 players would slow play here because he has the board dominated. Also why would he call my $15 pre flop open with Q5dd?


Hand 3:

I'm short here ($70 eff). I open up AA to $15 vs. a bunch of limpers. One call. Villain has me covered with like $85.

Flop:
57Q
I check to him and he jams. I call off $55.

Turn: Brick

River: Brick

V1 shows 57

Thoughts: Seems standard. Any Queen is playing this way when we're so short stacked, no?


Overall, this seems like a standard downswing but at the same time was I doing something wrong Pre? The table was obviously VERY CRAZY, maybe I should be opening to $18-20?? At the same time isn't it good that I'm getting these weak hands to call my $15 opens? Also, should I have bet folded the first 2 hands? or maybe checked it back?

Last edited by Good Life; 10-28-2017 at 06:31 PM.
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10-28-2017 , 06:21 PM
Hand1:

You have 6 on the board and in his hand.

There's nothing you can really do about hand1. It doesn't matter what credit you give to his wide range, as you didn't have the A and there's a lot of hands in his range that you're ahead that could be jamming here. You also still have outs regardless of his holding, and you actually still have 27% equity even against 2p. This is just a normal high variance call vs. poor players. This board was too wet for you to assume you were behind 2p. He could easily have all sorts of combo draws, K9, flush draws and other hands that you're ahead of. Chalk it up and get him next time.

Hand2:

This hand would be an easier fold if you bet 1/2 the pot instead of how large you did. As played, I think you have enough equity where it's probably a call but you don't feel good about it as you're often behind since V has to have Tx for you to be ahead here. I'd probably still find a fold if I have a good read that V plays passively without nutted hands, though, even if the math says I should call. This is a situation where you can decrease the math with live reads. If you haven't seen V perform this type of play with Tx then you usually have to give them credit for a 5 here.

Hand3:

Did you open the $15 after the limpers were in? If so, you need to raise more. If the standard raise was $12 and you had 3 limpers ahead, you need to make it at least $21-22. I'd probably make it $24. Your stack is going in on that flop regardless. As played, you just got coolered and, as in hand1, still had outs.

Between Hand1 and Hand3 you're going to win a bit over 1 in 4 of those even when you get your money in behind. You just happened to get 2 of the 3 expected losers. It happens.
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10-28-2017 , 06:39 PM
Fixed. Thanks for your response.

Hand 1 and 2 were against the same villain and I don't really think he's polarized. I think after seeing his first hand showdown I should have folded that hand giving him credit for the 5. A ten would just flat. I guess it's a standard call off on Hand 1 but I just don't see many players raise/jamming their draws. They usually play it very passive and just flat to try to make their hand. Hand 3 was super standard. I'm getting it in with Any Queen their 100% of the time.

Also yeah my open sizes were too small. I should of have adjusted to the table.
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10-28-2017 , 06:54 PM
Definitely open for more. 20$+ if 12-15$ is getting called by just about anything. Keep in mind c/R at 1/2 Are almost always nuts or something close to it. Most villains are not thinking past 1st level and certainly not 2nd level.
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10-28-2017 , 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good Life
Hand 1:
Hero dealt AA in MP. I open to $12 and get 3 callers.

Flop: QT6
V1 checks. Hero bets $35. V2 and V3 fold. V1 jams $155. I have him covered and call it off.

Turn: Brick

River: Brick

Villain shows T6

Thoughts about this hand: Villain is an average reg whose loose passive. I guess in hindsight maybe I can bet/fold this to his aggression? QT suited and sets were definitely something I was worried about. I didn't expect him to show up with bottom two here because why would he call $12 pre with T6 suited? I guess I need to put villain on a wider range?
I don't really think your thought process here should be about making sure the exact hand he showed up with is in the range you assigned him. In my opinion, the important thing to take away from both this hand and Hand 2, against the same opponent, is this: when he shows aggression, he is representing that he has better than 1 pair. Now is it possible he won't always have that when he raises? In theory, yes. But have you witnessed any other hands where he showed up with hands not capable of beating TPTK or an overpair? How did he play those?

(By the way, I would never have been able to get away from Hand 3 either. I wouldn't worry about that at all.)
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10-28-2017 , 09:31 PM
Welcome to the forum, OP. There have been too many replies to make it worthwhile for me to edit them out now, but you'll get much better analysis if you don't include results. Just get up to your decision point and then stop there without saying what you did and ask for opinions.

Also, you'll get much more in depth responses and more of them if you only post one hand per thread
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10-28-2017 , 09:36 PM
Hand 2 is a fold others seem ok....post one hand at a time to get better feedback

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10-28-2017 , 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NutJob72
Keep in mind c/R at 1/2 Are almost always nuts or something close to it. Most villains are not thinking past 1st level and certainly not 2nd level.

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10-28-2017 , 10:20 PM
I can fold hand 2. Hand 1, there's too many draws readless and too much already in the pot to think about folding. Hand 3 is a lol snap call but I probably cbet a small amount instead and ship every turn.
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10-29-2017 , 01:36 AM
I think hand 3 is at least $25 pre if there's "a bunch of limpers".

However the main lesson here is: at low stakes a c/r or bet/raise/re-raise is Vs showing us they're way ahead.

I've lost most of my money at these stakes calling the raises or calling the re-raises of my raise.
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10-29-2017 , 08:23 AM
H1: If you can legit include KJ and FD in his flop raising range then calling it off is fine. Can the V overvalue hands like AQ/KQ? The number of these hand combos outnumber the set/2 pair combos.

Obviously, his raising range is limited to nutty hands, which u now know.

H2: See the above comment. The flop is drawless and most players will not jam with TP here. I’d B/F a smaller amount, say ˝ PSB, given the dry board.

H3: ok.

Epilog - it is difficult to flop 2-pr and trips, so don't let these magic flops deter u from value betting. Keep working on ranging your opponents. GL!
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