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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
H2, I wasn't thinking that players at these stakes would be so aware that I raised next to act, and also it was difficult with his stack size. So I think now flat calling would have been better. May have lost less as it turned out by 3-betting. I don't think we were supposed to say anything with players to act, but original raiser said "you aren't concerned about all those people to act." I replied "I am isolating versus the fish." Then the player cold shoved.
Neither of you should say anything with others still in the hand.
The stack sizes are another reason I don't like 3B'ing with AKo next to act. There's almost no 3B size you can take that is big enough to get the hand heads-up, but small enough that you can ever fold when he jams. You're just going with your hand, but you've capped how much you can win.
On the other hand, if you flat call, yeah, you let the other players behind over-call, and you'll be monkey-in-the-middle or OOP multi-way sometimes, but you might also induce someone left to act to 3B squeeze light.
So, UTG2 with $160 opens to $16, you flat call from UTG3, LJ flat-calls, HJ puts in a big 3B to $80, action folds to UTG2, he jams $144, expecting everyone else to fold, but now you re-jam for $400 with an extra $100 in dead money in the pot. The HJ should be insta-folding anything he was 3B'ing light, and also folding some hands he was 3B'ing for value.
You'll still be behind if UTG2 or HJ wakes up with AA or KK, but flat calling the initial open, then back-re-jamming is going to put him in the blender. Maybe he rage-folds QQ. Maybe he spaz-calls with AQs.
Even when no one 3B's, it's fine. We can make TPTK on the flop, and get value with a disguised hand from other TP hands with a worse kicker. Otherwise, we saw a cheap flop, and if we whiffed, we can just check-fold.