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05-12-2024 , 07:34 AM
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H1. I have 240, others cover. UTG+1 raises to 15, UTG+2 calls, and I call in BB with 22. Flop comes 432 with 2-flush. I check, check, UTG + 2 bets 25, and I checkraise to 70. Could have led the flop.

H2. I have 400. UTG+2 with 160 raises to 16, I am UTG+3 and 3! to 60 with AKo, HJ pushes for 400, BTN with about 200 tank folds, I fold. Was intending to gii on missed flops. Could have raised to 45 or flatted.
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05-12-2024 , 11:44 AM
H1, UTG+2 folded to the checkraise. I was hoping he hit the wet board, but maybe he just had something like 77 or AT. People fold to checkraises a lot these days. I was planning to shove the turn with all the draws out there. I could have led out.

H2, I should have posted from HJ's point of view. I folded AKo face up. He showed AA. Original raiser said he had 99 and BTN said she had QQ. People were saying he had to do it, rather than play it 3 or 4-ways. I don't know if he could have 4! smaller. Kind of a difficult spot for him as the shove usually takes it.
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05-12-2024 , 11:53 AM
AA play was dumb.

Hand 1 Vs this action id c/c with 22 because utg+2 range is weak (he can only continue with 55, 66, and hands that beat you) and cr puts your hand face up.
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05-12-2024 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1
AA play was dumb.

Hand 1 Vs this action id c/c with 22 because utg+2 range is weak (he can only continue with 55, 66, and hands that beat you) and cr puts your hand face up.
How should AA play it?

He could also continue with flush draws. I could be doing this with a combo draw. He probably isn't loose enough to have 2-pair or a pair with a straight draw.
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05-12-2024 , 12:30 PM
H1, I like donking out on the flop, when we're multi-way and it's a dynamic low-middling connected board. We'll get lots of loose calls, and some occasional raises. Donking allows us to pile it in before a scare card shuts down the action.

And as you correctly note, check raises on these boards get lots of folds.

H2, I probably just flat call rather than 3B next to act, which looks super strong, and narrows our range too much, making it easier for opponents to play perfectly against us. It's good to have some strong hands in our range when we just flat call. It allows us to show up post flop with some hidden monsters.

I wouldn't jam missed flops. V is going to have TT+ a lot, and may not feel like folding all his over-pairs.

As played, I think it's a trivial fold for $400. But I wouldn't fold face up. No need to advertise what you were 3B'ing.

I don't hate V's jam with AA. He could have QQ or AK when he jams. He can't raise to $150 and then fold, so he may as well jam and hope someone gets sticky with KK/QQ.

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05-12-2024 , 07:39 PM
H2, I wasn't thinking that players at these stakes would be so aware that I raised next to act, and also it was difficult with his stack size. So I think now flat calling would have been better. May have lost less as it turned out by 3-betting. I don't think we were supposed to say anything with players to act, but original raiser said "you aren't concerned about all those people to act." I replied "I am isolating versus the fish." Then the player cold shoved.
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05-12-2024 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
H2, I wasn't thinking that players at these stakes would be so aware that I raised next to act, and also it was difficult with his stack size. So I think now flat calling would have been better. May have lost less as it turned out by 3-betting. I don't think we were supposed to say anything with players to act, but original raiser said "you aren't concerned about all those people to act." I replied "I am isolating versus the fish." Then the player cold shoved.
Neither of you should say anything with others still in the hand.

The stack sizes are another reason I don't like 3B'ing with AKo next to act. There's almost no 3B size you can take that is big enough to get the hand heads-up, but small enough that you can ever fold when he jams. You're just going with your hand, but you've capped how much you can win.

On the other hand, if you flat call, yeah, you let the other players behind over-call, and you'll be monkey-in-the-middle or OOP multi-way sometimes, but you might also induce someone left to act to 3B squeeze light.

So, UTG2 with $160 opens to $16, you flat call from UTG3, LJ flat-calls, HJ puts in a big 3B to $80, action folds to UTG2, he jams $144, expecting everyone else to fold, but now you re-jam for $400 with an extra $100 in dead money in the pot. The HJ should be insta-folding anything he was 3B'ing light, and also folding some hands he was 3B'ing for value.

You'll still be behind if UTG2 or HJ wakes up with AA or KK, but flat calling the initial open, then back-re-jamming is going to put him in the blender. Maybe he rage-folds QQ. Maybe he spaz-calls with AQs.

Even when no one 3B's, it's fine. We can make TPTK on the flop, and get value with a disguised hand from other TP hands with a worse kicker. Otherwise, we saw a cheap flop, and if we whiffed, we can just check-fold.
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05-13-2024 , 03:31 AM
From a results-oriented point of view, it would have been a disaster if I flat called, the the guy with AA 3!, the 180 stack shoved with QQ, the 160 stack with 99 folded, and I shoved for 400. I might just fold AKo to that action though, given how tight people reraise at 1/2. Sort of standard tournament play with shortish stacks though to flat call with AK and go for the back shove.
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05-13-2024 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
From a results-oriented point of view, it would have been a disaster if I flat called, the the guy with AA 3!, the 180 stack shoved with QQ, the 160 stack with 99 folded, and I shoved for 400. I might just fold AKo to that action though, given how tight people reraise at 1/2. Sort of standard tournament play with shortish stacks though to flat call with AK and go for the back shove.
Yes, it would have been a disaster in that instance.

The opposite can also be true. In one of ths first hands I posted here, I 3B next to act with AA over a UTG open, and got flat called by KK in MP, who flopped a very hidden top set. Had I flatted, MP probably would have 3B, and I could have put in a back raise jam.

Doubtful he would have folded, but he's such a nit, he might have. If not, I still would have doubled him up, but at least I would have gotten my money in good, rather than suffering the indignity of having him trap me on the flop.

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