I am OK to lose my 100BB top 2 vs bottom set. I raise the flop/get it in, or call/call and call regardless of the board.

good post, clear call when u look at things this way

Alright, heres my thoughts on the hand, I had AJ here and was trying to "range merge", the value bet was thin and obv it doesnt beat a decent part of his range but I really thought that aq was out of the question for how dank played it, (im not gonna say what specifically but I feel like if dank thought he had a strong hand he would have taken a different line. This means theres a possible flaw in danks hand strength perception versus various types of villains, for example i feel like this would be a much tougher decision and ide lean towards folding the turn versus a guy like gl79, yao, or bodyman (although its pretty likely im not folding here) and ide snap/fistpump on river versus guys like keli, slammed, pianospike spewconn ect.

Personally i think my river decision is a 100 times more interesting and worthy of discussion then danks as i said earlier in this thread that if you call turn on this board u need to call like 90% of rivers. Anyways what it came down for to me is I thought I would get a lighter call because of my image and based the river shove on the fact that regs will make hero calls on me.

I agree that your river decision is interesting.

Here's how I would analyze it:

What hands do you beat that will call? AK/AT perhaps, though there's a real question whether dank would call pf with them, or call the river. QJ maybe, but not likely at all b/c he would have to call pf, then call on the flop with 2 left to act, including pf raiser, and of course again on the river. A5 is possible, but unlikely: pf call is questionable, and one would expect a raise on the flop. Random pocket pairs unlikely. In sum, not a whole lot worse hands call you that you beat.

What better hands fold? I can't think of any that are likely to fold. AQ is the lowest part of the range, and as we've discussed here, you can't expect it to fold.

So, I would probably check, hoping that he'll bet with a hand that I beat that otherwise would have folded to a river bet (admittedly, I don't think there are many such hands that dank would bet here, particularly given the action).

The best reason for you in particular to bet that I can think of, given that you're such an aggro player, is to "protect" your bluffs in other situations.

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dont fold. hes just repping 5's here.

hands like this are so useless to comment upon because they depend so so much on you and villains perception of each other

assuming i didnt know your hand, i like your river bet because it's so annoying to him that you are repping such a tight range. especially when he has aq because he has underrepped his hand but it almost doesn't matter because he still doesn't expect you to vbet worse or bluff that often. i don't know or care about the ev of it. that you have aj makes it interesting. i still like your river bet.

i'm pretty sure none of that made any sense. i suck at poker.

IS THIS THREAD A GIGANTIC LEVEL?

Seriously, I don't have any idea why you would ever fold this hand on this board against anybody who isn't a ridiculous nit.

If I call the turn it's to trap, not to give myself room to fold.

Seriously, I feel like I'm crazy reading this thread. There are some hands that basically just play themselves no matter what level anybody is thinking on -- this is one of them.

If instead your hand was A5 then it would be a much more interesting spot.

Another big reason that dank needs to be calling here -- he's not exactly repping a ton of strength and in billzfan's position I'd be shoving almost any river and I really don't think it's that thin.

Also, I don't really buy the "range merge" comment here -- rather, it seems more like a straight value bet because dank's hand doesn't look like it's tremendously strong. Even if dank is folding a lot of worse hands, if he isn't likely to have many better hands your shove gives him a chance to make enough calls with hands he might otherwise check behind to make up for those times you run into a better hand.

Shoving is my top choice for you. Checking gives up too much value, given stacks you aren't happy bet-folding the river, and with less than a PSB left a shove is totally natural.

dank you called river?

no i folded, because i have terrible lapses sometimes. Maybe if i hadnt won a 10k pot the night b4 i would have played the hand a little better

lol at folding