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Originally Posted by cardsngolfin
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I can't beat myself up for that bad turn card since I didn't raise more PF and on flop to get him out.
Hope I don't come across as a condescending prick which is hard to do because I am a condescending prick...
but the above thought process is how rec-fish think.
A rec-fish always thinks in terms of winning and losing a hand and will think thoughts like, "Well if I bet more I would have got him out..."
no. that is the wrong thought process.
Winning thinking players think in terms of extracting value, specifically extracting max value.
The take away here is that he CALLED you on the flop with bottom pair!!!! Had the turn paired the 4 or been a brick he "probably" would have called your turn shove because he put you on AK.
The reason I advocate shoving turn isn't because I want to get lessor hands out, but because the pot is such and our equity is such that we are right to shove and our shove can still get lessor hands to call. The other reason we shove in similar spots is that we may get our villains to forfeit their equity and surrender even in cases where they would be correct in calling us.
Anyways, the point of this post is to try to get you to think about these spots in a different way, and that is in terms of equity.
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
3,520,415 games 1.875 secs 1,877,554 games/sec
Board: 7h 4c 3d
equity win
Hand 0: 73.096% { ThTs }
Hand 1: 26.904% { Ac3c }
One of the winning principles in poker is that when we have majority equity we want to get as much money in the pot as possible.
You had this villain CRUSHED on this flop, in order for him to be correct in calling a flop bet he needs to be getting roughly 3:1 on his money. When you bet $45 on flop he got roughly 2:1 on his money so he made a mistake!!!
Just so happen that he just got lucky, but had he missed turn odds are probably 50% that he would have called your turn shove. In fact, there are a ton of turn cards that could encourage him to call your turn shove, a 2 or a 5 or a club for backdoor draws and then we would have gotten all our money in vs this villain while we had majority equity and that is what winning poker is all about...
So try to think of these spots and this game in terms of equity, fold equity, and extracting value and not so much in terms of winning and losing and "getting him out"...
GL
P.S. Do you have pokerstove??? its a free program. Its a must have program for all thinking players...
http://poker-stove.soft32.com/