Hello,

can someone tell me if this line was optimal for max value?

9 Handed table, no villains, no aggro players, very solemn pace of play.

lots of limping. not alot of three bet pots pre flop.

Hero has 98 Off in the small blind. There is about 5 people who limped.

Hero complets for a dollar. Flop comes out.....

987c

Hero Leads out for $13. Everyone folds to the cutoff who makes it $50.

Cut off has about $300 in his stack prior to the raise. Very striaght forward player never gets out of line, border line TAG.

Hero calls?!

Turn is a 9

Hero checks?! Cut off Checks.

River 4

Hero has about $220 in his stack and shoves all in.

Please discuss if this is optimal for my range can contain alot of 2 pair hands, trip hands (A9) and small flushes. cut off found a fold. by the way he had 10s6s

Thanks

Flop call is meh.

Turn must donk. For max value make the same bet the CO raised to.

River must donk again, should be 1/2 - 2/3PSB which should get V to ship it.

by leading the turn am i not exposing my range to be exactly what it is? 98 97 77 88 99 109? i basically put his range to be ace high flush draws with pairs, and i anticipated him to lead the turn for around 80 , i guess i played the hand from his perspective more than mine. since he was confused on the river with my shove.

I would have bet the turn about $75. He can put you on a lot of hands here, and if he has anything you are going to get paid by on the river, he's calling turn.

As played, bet less on river (~$75). Everything beats him on the river, so why would he call a shove? He might have made a crying call of $75, though.

Not quite. You could just as easily be unconvinced with a made straight or set of nines. JT, 56, 9x. Everybody limped so I don't think a boat is a must.

If CO raises PP pre I think raise/fold 140 on the flop otherwise you played it fine

Preflop: fine

Flop: Cant we check being first to act and just call? Leading doesnt accomplish much here. It cant be for value. Check/call

Turn: Lead for 1/2 pot

River: now that we played the hand this way we can check/shove (if villian will bet flushes or straights) or shove.

c/s probably gets more value than leading river.

Normally I would say check the turn because we're so nutted, but I think leading is fine vs a Villain who never gets out of line on the flop. For example, I will sometimes be raising flop with a random KT/QT hand, if I feel that the guy in the blinds is donking a lot of weak Tx/9x/8x hands. But if he literally is never out of line, then this turn is fairly neutral for him (aside from exactly 87), because 95%+ of his flop raising range is made hands. No one is folding a flopped straight to a single turn bet (or any boats, obviously). You easily rep 9x's and perhaps even Tx bluffs.

Checking turn only to jam the river is terrifyingly bad, sorry. It's a huge overbet on a dryish board, and you're only getting calls from perfect coolers (97/88/77), and you have no overbetting dynamic going on I presume.

I often think in terms of giving my opponents opportunities to make mistakes, and generally speaking, betting (reasonable sizes) into them offers them more room for errors than checking. It's very rare that checking back for a villain is the worst move for them, because I'm very rarely checking oop with any draws that I'm willing to call a bet with. By the same token, overbet jamming into them with the nuts offers them almost no room to make a mistake with. You gave this guy the best possible shot he could have to make a correct fold with A9 or JT/65.

Flop call is 50-50 imo. Raise or call is fine. I would probably lead turn. I think a lot of hands V is raise the flop with are T9 T8 T7 JT T6 88 77 A9ss-J9ss and you crush all of those hands and is probably isn't folding any of those hands on the turn so betting turn would make it easier to gii on the tover

I would fold otf. In a straight forward passive game the flop raise represents a straight. We only improve ott 10% of the time will likely be facing another bet.

As played I would bet turn about 1/2 pot and same otr, but now villain probably can't call with his straight on this scary board.

i see your point but he actually hit a flush on the river! 106 Suited in spades.I heard that folding flop here is fine, and i think as played calling is borderline OK in this spot, given that yes, hes hardly getting out of line, but something tolld me he was on a strong flush draw,which would call a shove if got there.

i think donk betting and c/s the river would be best, he'd probably make a crying call on the end.

Thanks, All.

c/r river obv

well. my thoughts after the turn was his 50 screamed flush draw to me. so checking the turn was to induce another lead by him where i have the option the c/c or c/j most often if c/j would probably get through since his hand was made, jamming made sense since id play A9 65 78 109 mostly the same way. since he made his hand on the river with a flush id figure hed put me on those ranges of hands, so essetially i check to trap/induce and shove more as a bluff.

check calling i think is fine as well. i lead more to protect a somewhat made hand, i think thats fine as well since im oop and alot of bad turn cards can come. I think turn/river plays as outlined make the most sense, i took a different approach, but perhaps with a wrong player. a TAG would never pay me off or think im bluffing in that spot, especially since my own image is pretty TAG who doesnt spew much .