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03-08-2024 , 11:08 PM
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1/2 NLHE (timed rake)

EP raise to $10. 3 calls. I call in BTN in QTs (clubs).

SB calls.

Flop ($62): Ad Kc 9h

SB bets $10. He's eff stack with around $150 left. All call including me.

Turn ($122): Ad Kc 9h. Ac

SB bets $20. One of the preflop cold-callers calls. I call.

River ($182): Ad Kc 9h Ac. Jd

SB bets $20. Folds to me.

Your play?
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03-09-2024 , 10:16 AM
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Call river getting 10-1. But you're good here maybe 20% of the time at best. V probably has quad Aces lol.
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03-09-2024 , 11:40 AM
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These 3 straight streets of the same value tends to be something stupid like a King, so vast majority of the time you raise, he just folds. It could be an AK suck bet, but i dont think its likely that its a hand that calls an all in when hes beat like AQ. So im not shipping


This could be a situation where you could combat dumb poker with your own dumb poker and raise to like $40-$50 for a little bit of value, and give him such a cheap price he would call with a king (if he 3 bets, despite the great price, youd just fold cuz its a full house every time)
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03-09-2024 , 12:33 PM
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My gut says this is a weak AX, A9, or K9.

K9 and a weak AX can't call a raise. A9 is praying you raise.

Nothing wrong with calling.
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03-09-2024 , 01:42 PM
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I called and he showed KJ.

I've been playing too much PLO lol, which threw me off because I thought he has a lot of full houses. But he really doesn't.

I didn't even think about min-raising but that might be a good exploit in this spot.
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03-09-2024 , 01:54 PM
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I called and he showed KJ.

I've been playing too much PLO lol, which threw me off because I thought he has a lot of full houses. But he really doesn't.

I didn't even think about min-raising but that might be a good exploit in this spot.
Get his number. Ask him to text you whenever he's going to play.
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03-10-2024 , 12:52 PM
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you should be 3b pre or fold.

Mostly fold

over calling after 4 people enter the pot is not ideal.

I dunno maybe if they play this bad it's fine....
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03-10-2024 , 07:19 PM
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you should be 3b pre or fold.

Mostly fold

over calling after 4 people enter the pot is not ideal.

I dunno maybe if they play this bad it's fine....
Isn't suited Broadway okay multiway on the BTN for cold-calling when most players are deep?

The blinds could squeeze. I should've thought about that before calling.

I could see 3-betting but the raise is coming from EP so he's more likely to 4-bet.
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03-11-2024 , 07:52 AM
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Isn't suited Broadway okay multiway on the BTN for cold-calling when most players are deep?

The blinds could squeeze. I should've thought about that before calling.

I could see 3-betting but the raise is coming from EP so he's more likely to 4-bet.
Suited broadway is ok multiway, better than low SC for sure, i dont think its a bad call, but not an awesome one either, you still dont hit the nut straight very often Q high. i wouldnt blame anyone for 3b, calling, or folding pre. I agree 3b into EP raise is a bold move.
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03-11-2024 , 08:15 AM
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Played fine. You might well have seen so e sort of change in bet size if the SB hand strength changed. Of course he could have A9/AJ etc but the question is much more whether he will pay off a small raise if he just has random Ax. I would be somewhat tempted to raise your well disguised straight very small if he were deeper, but if you raise can you ever fold if he jams? Or is jamming yourself outrageous given stack depth? Player dependent but in a vacuum the way you played it seems fine.

Not folding QTs preflop on the button with timed rake.
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