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08-20-2009 , 10:53 AM

Al-Bundy

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6

hey guys, what do you think? is this a good spot for a river shove? villain is a tight 12/5/2 regular. i have a pretty tight image.

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Board:
Red_Devil_VT (Button): $206.10
HERO (UTG): $467.50
borodjuk04 (UTG+1): $680.60
guyanane (MP1): $252.40
16s (MP2): $396
Arogos (MP3): $80
GroteHand (MP4): $16.14
daikichi (): $313.94
-BKA- (CO): $481.27

Dealt to HERO Q

Pre-flop:
(5 folds), -BKA- raises to $14, (1 folds), HERO calls $12, (1 folds)

Flop: ($32) 8

(2 Players)
HERO checks, -BKA- bets $16, HERO raises to $44, -BKA- calls $28

Turn: ($120) 2

(2 Players)
HERO bets $60, -BKA- calls $60

River: ($240) 3

(2 Players)
[color=red]HERO ???

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08-20-2009 , 11:20 AM

shorn7

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,495

Not clear from your HH, but it seems you limp/called, so I will make that assumption.

I don't bluff this river since he calls with pretty much all overpairs. The 3 actually is a really bad card for you since it significantly reduces the likelihood of a flopped set.

He has called a CR on the flop and a 1/2 pot on turn. I don't think he is folding to that river.

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08-20-2009 , 11:29 AM

Al-Bundy

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6

hm, the hh isnt correct. im sitting in the small blind....

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08-20-2009 , 12:57 PM

TWlNUNO

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 492

I feel that you will get looked up way to much here with one pair hands. A big portion of your range seems to be missed draws on a board like this. When the 3 comes on the riverits also a bad card in the fact that your not c/r the flop with just a 3.
It looks pretty much like a missed bluff and you wanted to keep control of the pot.

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08-20-2009 , 06:29 PM

Al-Bundy

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6

i actually shoved a get a fold, but i think u guys are right. the second 3 was a bad card and i dont realize that at the table....

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08-21-2009 , 05:47 PM

goomba

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al-Bundy

Pre-flop:
(5 folds), -BKA- raises to $14, (1 folds), HERO calls $12, (1 folds)

Flop: ($32) 8

(2 Players)
HERO checks, -BKA- bets $16, HERO raises to $44, -BKA- calls $28

Turn: ($120) 2

(2 Players)
HERO bets $60, -BKA- calls $60

River: ($240) 3

(2 Players)
[color=red]HERO ???

I would call you here with any pair, especially if you shoved.

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08-22-2009 , 12:23 PM

Deanglow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,314

^^^ that's awesome dude, care to explain why instead of waving your big bad e-penis around?

Shoving river is entirely opponent dependent and I'd bet a little more on turn to be more credible.

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08-22-2009 , 02:02 PM

ale1teixeira

adept

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 851

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

^^^ that's awesome dude, care to explain why instead of waving your big bad e-penis around?

Shoving river is entirely opponent dependent and I'd bet a little more on turn to be more credible.

Agree 100%

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08-26-2009 , 02:13 PM

goomba

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 166

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

^^^ that's awesome dude, care to explain why instead of waving your big bad e-penis around?

Shoving river is entirely opponent dependent and I'd bet a little more on turn to be more credible.

Sorry, didn't mean to hit you with my E-pean.

On a drawy board, where I have a tight Image, I lean toward calling aggresive opponents when the river whiffs. And as you pointed out, the 1/2 pot turn bet didn't help sell it.

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08-26-2009 , 02:31 PM

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AllTheCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

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Originally Posted by goomba

Sorry, didn't mean to hit you with my E-pean.

I counter with my E-Paean:

O' wise Goomba, son of the Mushroom Lands,
The spell of your mispelling laughter commands.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 08-26-2009 at 02:35 PM. Reason: Caveat: The ~2 people on this forum who get this joke will not find it funny. :_(

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08-26-2009 , 04:00 PM

#11

goomba

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I counter with my E-Paean:

O' wise Goomba, son of the Mushroom Lands,
The spell of your mispelling laughter commands.

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08-29-2009 , 09:44 AM

#12

Oxy

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,913

I think you really have to decide on the flop what you're doing with the hand. Are you going to represent a set or try to hit a flush and profit? You can balance it either way. When you c/r flop and 1/2 pot turn you're not being consistent with either and you mess up your hand. Don't bet like a pussy and correct decisions will become much easier. If you bet 90-110 on turn you should shove river 100%.

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