8-max $2/5
Effective stack $985

Hero AsJc (LJ)

Preflop: Hero $15, BTN and BB call

Flop: Kd6c4h (Pot $47)
Action: BB checks, hero c-bet $15, BTN fold, BB calls

Turn Qs (Pot $69 after rake plus jackpot drop)
Action: BB check, hero $60, BB calls

River: 8h (Pot $189)
Action: Check, Hero $225

It seems like a good board to 3-barrel bluff on. I would go smaller on the turn and river. A larger bet means a narrower value range. Online the slight overbet is often a tell of a bluff.

Two questions I would ask myself before the 3rd barrel: 1. Does the villain have a fold button, 2. Does he look like the type who would check raise with 57 at the river, assuming he might put you on KK/QQ/KQ?

On one hand, the board is encouraging because of how dry it is, but doing 3barrel in multiway is really hard to get away with most of the time in my experience. The one player who decides their hand is good enough doesn't really see anything to change their mind here besides you pumping in more money. I like the sizing on the river, though, it's gutsy.

There is of course a straight draw that hit, as mentioned above.

I think player type matters a lot here, some people will hold on to A4 for two streets here and others will fold like K2s or whatever.

Do you any info on the player pool in terms of common tendencies?

Or do you have any reads on Villain specifically?

River sizing represents 2-pair or set. Maybe better to go smaller and represent AA/AK also and also save chips if called.

This villain specifically plays very wide preflop. He made sure everyone at the table knew his luck number was 4. He played many of his big hands aggressively with check raises and large sizings. He standard RFI was $30.

I saw him make a huge turn check raise bluff that he 3-bet my UTG open (BTN flatted behind my original RFI and SB 3-bet) from the small blind. He had Jh9h and the run out was 8s9sQh-5s. He check raised the turn $220 bet to $800.

Despite playing too wide he made some tight folds even folding bottom two pair on a disconnected board after getting bet raised. He was loose aggressive but not a calling station.

I generally play pretty straight forward in multiway pots but I felt this board favored my range too much not to play it that way. I had like 5-10 of my opens go multiway and I just check folded flop because I no way connected with the board. I also felt that gave me a little more fold equity since I suspect I was viewed on the nitty side by the table.

This is a typical line for me as MP PFR on K-high rainbow/disconnected flop. I bet 1/3 pot with my entire range. On turn I polarize usually 2/3ish and then bomb the river for 100-125%. So I end up at this particular river with KQ, QQ, 66, 44 and the rare time I fast play KK as my value range.

Yea that can make sense, throwing in a bluff after having nothing happen for a long time is a tried and true strategy lol

what's reason for turn sizing? i think overbet turn and give up river is a more effective bluff line here. my guess would be described villain calls way too much otf (not taking into account its multiway) and then will overfold turn significantly vs like 1.5x
~2/3 ott isnt a polarizing size on bricks (i know you didnt bet 2/3 here but responding to post earlier)

I generally overbet turn on cards that I think bring in more draws for villain continuing range but I retain a hefty nut advantage. For example, if the flop was Ks6s3d and then the turn came Td to bring in backdoor flush draws and straight draws that villain likely float a 1/3 c-bet, I generally overpot on a turn like that. In this particular hand if the turn was a T that also brought a flush draw I might overbet turn.


I am open to suggestions on finding more overbet turn spots.

ok so like my heuristic turn overbetting is we want to do it when the flopped nuts are still strong ie defender hasn't caught up enough to overcome him being capped / bluff catching. ie if a flush comes in a whole bunch of new nuts are created so our advantage in flopped 2p / sets / overpairs is worth much much less (ie can no longer overbet and force him to defend med str hands or get exploited). its less about oop picking up equity and more about leveraging our uncapped range into his range that could have checkraised but elected to c/c instead.

you have gtowizard so a good way to look at this is just to open up gtow and look at btn vs bb 100 bb deep. its not perfect recreation but i think itll do fine here. on an offsuit queen there is some half potting but the more preferred sizing is some split of 175 and 225% pot. i think this is going to work alot better in practice than solverland bc if u take a look at the defenders range ott vs this he is never supposed to fold a king and calls some 6x/4x/qx floats. its honestly noteworthy to me live when anyone who isnt a good reg continues ott with a bare tp that isnt their effective tk (ie kj here) and i think its a node fish play better than most mediocre live nits. it wouldnt shock me to see oop be too loose here otf (esp given that its multiway) and then fold the turn 80% of the time or something vs an overbet whereas i think they will call most tp's vs a pot sized bet. theres a large psychological difference between overbetting and potting imo.

Nice! Appreciate the education. That makes intuitive sense to me. We want our uncapped range to polarize and put pressure on capped + condensed ranges anyhow when we have nut advantage. I think I inherently polarize on turns a lot in these situations but do not adjust my bet size accordingly.

Spew.

At 2/5, you're not running into many GTO wizards. Nothing in your description makes me think he is one.

There were few draws and came only 75 came in. Therefore, when he calls the turn, he has something. The only question is whether he's going to fold. Generally, I've someone who calls a pot sized bet on the turn isn't going to fold the river on a blank for only 25% of their stack.

If you won, congrats.

Would you just give up the river or just never make the turn bet with AJ? What would you 3 barrel bluff with in this spot? I am not necessarily one to find many bluffs so I am trying to improve that aspect of my game. Usually I chicken out when I feel like it is a spot I should barrel.

I like the play. Small bet on a K high board multiway followed up with big bets on turn and river. KQ will raise you all day on the turn. You block KJs.

Yeah, figure out who calling stations are and avoid bluffing them. Random people tend to have fold buttons on average though.

Your hand makes a good barrel. No backdoor flush draw came in, you should get a lot of people to fold hands like A6, A4, and AK shouldn't be in villain's range, so that means you likely have 7 outs to an ace or T. Not enough equity that you hate getting raised on the turn as you have an easy fold. Getting raised on the turn also means you are facing 2p+ so an ace out would be no good anyways.

Interesting card to show you. I think in the end you bluffed with the best hand. If the villain is calling pf with K5, they are pretty bad. At low stakes, this wouldn't be a board I'd bluff the river on with any hand. I'd look at a three barrel if some sort of river card would change who was ahead. The "8" doesn't.

Multi-way between BB and BTN, probably better to just check flop, and flat call a small bet, or make a delayed c-bet on the turn.

As played, our river decision is going to depend a lot on our reads of V. If he's defending his BB too wide and has a fold button, yeah, we can barrel. But if he's on the tighter side or doesn't like folding, barreling the brick runout is just torching money.

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