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05-05-2013 , 10:41 PM

camz2895

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1/2 game villain is a reg I've seen in the room a lot. Probably mid 40s with real long hair and bangs with glasses. weird guy... I'm pretty sure he's real nitty but no history with him. Been at table for 30m and I don't think either of us had shown down a hand.

I get TT in utg +1 and make it 12. Him and button call.

Pot($39)
Flop 369cc

I bet 26 and in probably 5-7 seconds he counts out $75.

Seems like a snap fold but I've been getting run over all month so I'm questioning all my decisions

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05-05-2013 , 11:11 PM

702guy

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unless you have some experience with villain which shows he likes to bluff, chase and bet draws or to bet TPTK heavily, I think you have to fold here. Raises on a scattered flop like that typically are from a set ($12 pre is cheap enough for many to set mine) or AA from what I've seen.

I'm assuming the button folded before action came back to you?

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05-05-2013 , 11:49 PM

Raidion

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Pretty sure he is real nitty and he is raising you on the flop... So fold. At best you probably are up against 2 overs and a fd. He could have JJ or a set. This is a fold, especially with TT

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05-06-2013 , 12:57 AM

camz2895

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Yah button folded. I folded

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05-06-2013 , 01:25 AM

SuqAta8

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without any reads i think its a sigh fold

but with any reads that he likes to be aggressive post flop, i think its a snap shove

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05-06-2013 , 01:58 AM

Wing Nut

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Folding here, a suspected nitty players range with bangs crushes you.

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05-06-2013 , 02:25 AM

slimshady1999

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Snap fold. I see this line taken by jj-kk and even aa often. Villains flat big pairs pre hoping for a "safe" flop then go crazy post flop. The real question is what to do with qq-aa here. With jj I snap fold as well but not so sure about qq+

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05-06-2013 , 02:48 AM

DK Barrel

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glasses and bangs is qq+ every time

Seriously though I'm folding here and not feeling too bad about it. Not sure when the last time I saw a nitty player semibluff the flop or raise tpgk for value.

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05-06-2013 , 06:10 AM

dgiharris

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if V was aggro and liked to make moves and semibluff, we can call and reevaluate turn meaning we'd lead out on all non club turns.

But if V is the typical weak tight, passive, nitty, ABC, or fit-n-fold rec player then we can fold here and feel okay about it. V could have spiked a set or has an overpair. I doubt V is raising here with J9 type hands.

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05-06-2013 , 06:25 AM

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Tuma

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checking flop w/no history isn't that bad either

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05-06-2013 , 06:47 AM

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Czech Rays

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Originally Posted by camz2895

pretty sure he's real nitty

no history

These 2 seem incompatible, but they both mean you should fold.

Even if this was a flush draw half the time, he´ll normally have additional outs so the fold is trivial.

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Seems like a snap fold but I've been getting run over all month so I'm questioning all my decisions

Ah! Found your leak. It´s self pity.

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05-06-2013 , 11:39 AM

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fogodchao

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Originally Posted by dgiharris

agree.

he is likely calling with all hands that we can get any value from. standard b/f with the info you have

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