5-10 NL no real significant reads here. I am a semi-regular at this place (once a week), and have a good rep for being a solid winning player over the past decade there.. but not sure this guy knows anything about me, because I dont really know him. Villain is Asian prolly around 25-30 yrs old.

I have 2670 to start the hand, he covers.

There's a straddle, Folds to me in CO I raise to 60 with AJ of diamonds, BB calls.. straddle folds

Flop (145) is Ah, Jh, 6s.. BB leads out 70, I raise to 210, he calls

Turn (565) is 10c... Villain checks, Hero bets 400, he calls

River (1365) is 8c... Villain checks, Hero bets 700, Villain shoves....

Now River (4065)... i have 1300 left, Hero????

His lead on the flop threw for me loop.. seemed super fishy... but now what? Is this idiot bluffing/getting stupid with A-10,A-8 at least a fourth of the time???

tough to say. first you say he's asian which makes me think this is a call then you say he's an idiot which makes me think it's a fold.

i'm gonna go with fold.

obv 97h cooler? how could you ever bet fold this? geez

check river>bet/call river>bet/fold river


basically I don't think he is only calling with the part of his range that you beat (missed draws)

Flop raise is too small. As played I just fold cause I don't think he's bluffing and I don't think he has much to bluff with.

Lame spot...I think you have to fold tho

New to online poker forums, so forgive me for stepping in fresh and picking this apart. I hope people do the same for me.

This is an interesting situation. But I think you're asking the wrong question. Instead of "what should I do?", you should be asking "how did I get into this mess?"
And more importantly, "how do I avoid it In the future?"

His lead on the flop shouldn't be an issue here. You raised it and he called. The fun starts on the turn.

Look at the board on the turn. Why did you bet? Were you scared of a flush draw? Where you trying to get value for your top two? Were you prepared for a check raise there? Would you fold? At that point, you would have put in 1/5 of your money and folded. But still, you can get away from two pair.

Now look at the board on the river. You got a check call on that turn. Now what hand is going to call your turn bet, with all the leverage of your remaining $2,000 behind it, AND also call your river bet? It's hard to contrive a hand on this board that you beat and will allow him to call you on three streets to the tune of half your stack.

Maybe you should have checked either the river or the turn, depending on the feel of the game and whatnot.

I don't think you should worry about the check raise on the river as something to be expected, but rather ask yourself what are the likely outcomes of that river bet. Perhaps sometimes you will get called by a weak ace or looked up by a KJ. Mostly, after the turn call, you will get folds. And then there is the check raise....and you see the problem with that.

Insta-fold.

+1. great post. obviously skilled live player yes?

i mean obviously the guy had 79 of hearts once OP posts the hand, but I think folding is pretty bad given some asian dude donk betting the flop.

nah it was probably Q9hh. But really - almost any combination of hearts is a combo draw or pair + FD that will check/call.

obviously it's for value

Reminds me of DGAF's comment about folding to more river c/rs and the villain always having the nuts.

BTW, if we think the villain has the capability of being good/patient, things like bottom set are in his range... It doesn't just have to be the 7.9 or KQhh hands... other sets would seem really strange, esp with the turn call. But then, does he ever have your hand with a c/r? is he ever expecting a river fold here? Ever? If yes, it could be a call.... If yes...

Interesting hand.

Feel like most of the time you're getting shown a flush draw that turned into a straight or 66 but a young asian guy could definitely be spewing it off here.

Would be leaning towards folding but paying close attention to how he puts the rest of the chips in the pot and body language for at least a minute.

Wait, what is wrong with hero's line aside from the unlikely result (river c/r)?

This is a fold.

raise bigger on the flop.

your range is very strong. pfr, raise flop donk, bet turn, bet river. he is trying to get you to call with a hand as strong as AAA or JJJ. he can beat that. fold river.

Someone please explain why he has to raise flop bigger, in position with top 2 and a solid image. Thanks.

def. this

Draws

How much should we raise to? Should we shove the flop?

Thank you. I like to think so, but there is always more to learn. That's why I joined here.

Seriously, someone please inform.

Yeah, line is fine. Fold river.

Could also be KQ hearts...

I think your line through the river is fine, river call depends on whether or not villain is dumb enough to checkraise worse two pair for value on this river I think.