So the players at casino I play at are generally characterized as loose weak. My question is, what's the best way to play hands that are suited connectors on the table? As in, what are some of the lines that I can take that will be the most profitable?
Few observations:
- People will overcall pf with cards that are either just suited or just somewhat connected no matter how many people there are, the strength of pf raise (unless we are talking about a 6x 3bet or something), and their position. Frequently each hand have 6 limps all calling raises
- Extremely concealed hands/ranges. Most players adopt the "strategy" of - limp call see flop cheap, hoping to hit the nuts, then proceed to slow play their big hands. No concept of stack sizing, isolation, betting/raising for value (unless they got the nuts then they'll go for a min-raise)
- They will call otf & ott in spots where generally in other casinos people wouldn't. (Eg. otf, bet and 4 callers, I fold in position because I don't think I'm good. Then safe cards for two streets and everyone checks it down and no one has anything - I should've been able to take the pot down in another scenario, but I'm not going to try and outplay these people in multi-way pots.)
My question is, does a table like this make suited connectors more or less valuable to play?
IMHO, Pros:
- cheap to see flop
- cheap to try to hit (in most cases)
- when hit (that's not an obvious flush), can value bet people and they won't fold
Cons:
- might not be good if hit (bigger flush, bigger two pairs, set vs 2p, etc) - problem is their hand is always so disguised
- less likely to be able to push people off hands if I miss - and i will miss more often than not - again it's freaking hard to get a read on these people (due to loose passiveness), all they do is call call call (which's only good if you are running hot)
- casino has capped $100 bet/raises, can't get all the money in if deeper than that.
I've been strictly sticking with playing those kind of hands in position. Any additional idea/advice relating to maximize profitability on this kind of table dynamic would be greatly appreciated.
Would you make an argument to tight up even more, or play more aggressive?
How to play pf? Limp in to see flop for cheap & hoping to hit, or iso more preflop to narrow opponent's ranges?
Depends on stack sizes. You're probably not deep enough. If you look at how often you'll flop a "good" hand with SCs you'll see you need 30:1 to profitably call. Over limping in LP might be ok. Don't bluff if they're stations, value bet instead. Don't slow play a big hand, hammer it.
He's just sayin that they are going to lock this thread because it is in the wrong place.
Your topic is a little too general but if they are indeed calling stations you should just he looking to see flops with suited connectors in position as cheaply as possible. I would avoid raising unless you are instead position but the value of suited connectors is your ability to get your opponents to fold. As far as worrying about getting over flushed that doesn't really happen all that often. If you do flop a monster you should just value bet relentlessly.
I'd say focus on set mining as opposed to playing suited connectors because when you miss your set its easy to get away. Also just play your premium hands aggressively and just throw in the occasional raise with suited connectors for deception and image. Suited connectors a Lot if the time you end up with a weak 1 pair hand and you will have lots of tougher decisions. I think just playing more straight forward TAG is the style that gets the money at this game you are describing.
Just post a hand, surely you have one that got you thinking about this? It's a great question, just give us a case study cuz that's how it's done here. And welcome to the forum.
