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Originally Posted by fitzthetaxman
I am inthe fence on limping...not so much because it lets the other guys draw cheapl, but moreso because I don't want someone else to raise and find myself in a bloated pot with zero initiative, so I probably prefer making it like 15 pre.
as played I am probably potting the flop and potting any card that makes a straight on the turn.
I like raising pre here. Depends on our post flop abilities and tendencies/skill of opponents. I'm thinking decent options are:
1)decent raise ($15plus or whatever we expect will thin the field) We take control of hand, hopefully buy the button.
Downside is that if we don't play that well post we can very well spew bad in a bloated pot with a not premium hand. Also we reduce the likelihood of winning a monster pot when we flop a set (vs line 2)
2) pot sweetener to like $5-$7, hope everyone calls and we have a better chance of playing for stacks if we flop a set, sometimes get a free card.
Our hand becomes a little more faceupish, a good opponent can see our raise for exactly what it is and put in a big 3 bet to pick up the dead money. Not many of these opponents at 1/2 so I wouldn't be too worried. With so many opponents not so likely to get a free card with this, especially with this small pf raise sizing.
3) Raise to $10-12 here. Kind of a mix between options 2 and 3.
4) call, mostly for set mining. We maximize our implied odds, but are less likely to be able to get stacks in when we flop gin.
Option 1 or 2 seem best to me depending on conditions.
Maybe someone else can give some input on the best sizing for a ''sweetener'' raise based on stack sizes.
Definitely bet this flop. We have basically the nuts that is not likely to get outdrawn. Checking is bad because we lose a street of value. If someone has a seven we want to make sure we build the pot and hopefully get all their chips. A lot of draws on this board that we would like to encourage action from. My thinking would be ''what bet sizing builds the biggest pot?''
I instinctively probably just bet $15 here. Maybe smaller is better, IDK. A smaller bet might be seen as a weaker hand and encourage a train of callers which would be ideal. But $15 might have the same result except result in a much bigger pot going to the turn.