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05-16-2011 , 02:59 AM

Misohoni

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I'm sitting on 1100 and the player to my right raises to 60 I make it 240 the player to my left flats the guy to my right tanks then flats. Gross. Flop comes ten high I'm first to act I ship. Standard or would a check be better? It's a way ahead or way behind situation but don't want to give ace high a free card. For one possible hand in the range which I didn't believe don't think I can check.

Last edited by Misohoni; 05-16-2011 at 03:16 AM.

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05-16-2011 , 06:30 AM

Check Check Lay

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You are looking for money from JJ and QQ here so I like a smaller bet >check> shove

if they have TT you pay it, but I dont like giving JJ a chance to fold to a shove because there is a guy behind and such.

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05-16-2011 , 11:44 AM

DonkSlayer

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Um checking would be horribad, but you could bet/call instead of just shoving.

Honestly though, if you're playing against the type of players that would call a shove just as often as a 1/2-3/4 pot bet, then just shove.

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05-16-2011 , 12:19 PM

grindme

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nh.

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05-16-2011 , 01:08 PM

Accomplice

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I don't mind shoving here. There's about $720 in the pot, you have $860 behind. If villains are intelligent they realize any bet by you commits you here. What are the other villains' stack sizes? Is the flop at all coordinated? What about reads on the villains?

(We need more information.)

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05-16-2011 , 03:13 PM

Misohoni

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They had close to 1000 and the board coordination doesn't really matter because I'm getting it in just the 2 villains that flatted 240 well it was gross and I was concerned about aa. Fwiw there could have been 2 hearts on the board but don't.

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05-16-2011 , 03:50 PM

Mr_Nice_Guy

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Yeah, I think smaller bet might be better as well. You are right about way ahead or way behind, Ace high wouldn't be calling any bet size so we are protecting against it anyway. A weakish type bet might induce JJ or QQ to ship. I don't think you should be thinking about folding no matter what, you are way too shallow and you 3-bet big enough to deny any set mining.

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05-16-2011 , 05:32 PM

Misohoni

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Well villain to my right had 1010 and hit quads, villain 2 mucked but also called. Nobody is flatting pre or min raising, right? Guess it's a cooler.

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05-17-2011 , 03:02 PM

Check Check Lay

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Originally Posted by Misohoni

Well villain to my right had 1010 and hit quads, villain 2 mucked but also called. Nobody is flatting pre or min raising, right? Guess it's a cooler.

Yeah u just pay it n move on

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