1/2 6-handed, 2 fun players playing every hand ($400 each) limp, Hero raises to $15 otb with AdQh, SB fun player ($200) and one limper call.

Flop ($50): Ks Kd 7h
Check, Check, Hero checks behind

Turn ($50): Th
Check, limper bets $15, Hero calls, SB calls

River ($95): 3s
Checks through

SB shows J9dd
Limper shows 73cc FTW

Hero mucks in disgust...

Could I play this better?


Pre: Standard.

Flop: I could/should’ve cbet but I figured I probably had the best hand anyway. And nobody is going to try and bluff the turn.

Turn: Once I check flop, I’m not sure if I can credibly raise the turn plus he may get sticky with Tx. But I think this was the best spot to raise the weak sizing.

River: Same issue as turn, cannot credibly rep a strong hand after playing so passively.

yes on the flop i think you shouldve cbet to something like $25-$30 to get the limper to fold out his hand and get head up with the SB "fun player".

p.s.

Dont show results in the future. instead ask what you should be doing on the river and give the results later after some discussion on the hand.

Both were fun players as you can see from their hands lol. The 73cc wouldn’t fold to the flop cbet btw.

Yes you are probably right he wouldnt have folded but i was trying to explain what maybe you couldve have do to try and get him to fold to get to HU with the SB. I was trying not to be results orientated since you just mentioned him as a limper and not a "fun player'' as you described the SB. But either way, say he does call you cbet he probably isnt leading the turn, meaning you can double barrel and put a lot of pressure on the V

Think it's played fine.

You can't win every pot vs people who fold too much and youre AQ is going to make beter top pairs or top pair vs middle pair etc vs their hand ranges fairly regularly.

I did mention that the limper is a fun player too. So say I cbet $25 into $50, he calls. Turn ($100): are you double barreling all turns?

I’m just irritated with the fact that in this hand on the river, I KNOW that he has a weak 2p when he checks river, but I still cannot bet to make him fold. Which makes me think I must have made a mistake earlier in the hand.

The most results oriented guy on 2+2 strikes again!

Your only chance at bluffing this hand is on the turn with a big raise, with good sized river bet to really represent AK. I still wouldn't have done it with a "fun" player who's going to want to see your hand and is just as likely to have K2 as a seven.

Guess you could raise the turn small, say $35-40. This would balance the value part of your range on a relatively safe board.

Folding turn is fine.

Nothing wrong with this hand, you're not entitled to the pot because you have a premium preflop. If you really wanted to give yourself the best shot at winning this pot you should bet the flop and then the turn as you pick up equity.

I think you played the hand fine though.

I'd bet the flop since they have so much crap in their range. AQ is likely the best hand at this point, but it is also vulnerable so it is best to scoop it up now. I don't think it would be unreasonable to bet 100% here since they have so much crap that will just fold.

One mistake you made is thinking that "fun" players are going to automatically fold when you bet with air.

Another mistake is whining about losing close to the minimum when you completely whiff.

Why would I fold turn to that size when I know he’s weak AF? Cmon.

As Venice said, fun guy could have a hand like K2. If so, drawing thin, maybe even dead. Folding >>> calling.

I think we should be c-betting this flop with all our broadway hands since we have such a range advantage and are blocking our opponents from having broadway hands that contain a K. Can check behind T9/T8/98 type hands that don't have a bdfd and AA/QQ/JJ and like AK/KK.

As played, I think raising the turn is a decent idea when we pick up the gutshot and representing a slowplayed K. It's basically a 1 and done raise and check behind river and hope to beat a draw.

You could use this logic for any board and always fold to a fun guy betting cos he could have 'x' hand that has you drawing dead or close to dead. Call, you are getting a good price vs a very wide range.

His bet size is not indicative of a King, let alone a full house.

Vs described villains, i'm cbetting this flop 100% of the time and barrelling on a lot of turns, this one for certain. They are gonna have to fold a ridiculous % of hands.

AP, you could easily raise turn, rep a slowplayed K, but i don't mind this line that much either.

Then raise.

Betting or checking this dry flop is reasonable with Kx. Check flop and raise turn is a standard line you’d take with Kx.

Whole hand is fine. We don't need to cbet 100% in 3way pots, we can always cbet the turn if checked to again.

If the fun guy has TX (excluding TT/KT), Hero is more than a 3-1 dog. His sizing is polarizing, could be very strong or a lower 1-pr weak. Point is if Hero senses weakness, raising is the better option than playing passively.

Playing aggressive is usually better than playing passive. And here you go again putting the fun guy on a small portion of a very wide range. This sizing also could mean anything from this guy. This bet sizing is also not polarizing. This player can be betting any pair, he could be trying to get a cheap bluff through, he could be betting his Ace-rag thinking it is good as nobody is betting or he could do this with a monster.

Vs this very wide range calling with AQ is probably profitable and on the river you could make a large polarizing bet (where you bet and you are basically repping trips+ or nothing)

I believe this is the definition of a polarized range.

No, I suggest you look up the definition of a polarized range/bet. It's usually when you are repping either nuts or air, not a wide range of hands.