Exactly, if a 6, 8, or J comes and i check twice to him oop. Its very possible villian could find a bluff.

I mean this is such an obvious spot to bluff if you put yourself in villians shoes. Dude shows aggression on the flop and then all of a sudden slows down when 6, 8, or J comes and checks twice oop? Any decent opponent can bet 100% of their range here

And given that you know that you can play accordingly.

??? Fold cuz were oop. I hope your not suggesting a hero call

Why would you think it's a hero call? You act like you have no other information in this hand. Do you really think he is min raising pre with a 8x hand and then 3 bets on the flop with one (other than a straight which is unlikely)? Forget that we 4 bet and were 5 bet shipped on.

You have to take into account all information that you have to figure out what your opponent has. It's highly unlikely that you'd get 3 bet by just a straight draw or even a pair+sd. More likely he is over valuing an over pair (the min raise pre points to this) or has a set. Of course the old J8/68 is possible just unlikely.

We're behind to J8 and 86 (which min-raised?) - and we have decent outs to these hands - and exactly TT. A much, much wider range of hands will try to do this to you IP. I am fist-pumping my money into the middle here and running it three times.

Being occasionally wrong in cash games is perfectly fine and why we bring reloads.

Edit: One final thing is to examine from V's perspective. We have a concealed hand here. Since you (pretty incorrectly IMO) didn't raise PF with 99, there is absolutely no way that he's ranging you on 99 or TT. So he's thinking you either flopped it (unlikely) or have exactly 77, and you're much more likely just trying to bully him.

Bad player min raising with AA not wanting to 'scare' the remaining
People in the pot away. (Blinds). Discouraged because he might not get to
Play his AA. Them after a raising battle otf he sees you have strength and spaz shoves wanting to hurry up and win this pot with his AA. I mean come on, it's Aces. Doubt there was much thinking by him except about his aces.


But we can't assume he's a fish yet. I see a wide range pre. Many hands you beat. I call.

If you are afraid to play a set in this spot, you are vulnerable to a bluff from any wet board. Even if you are behind, it is not by much.

Either call or leave as soon as you get to 150 BB to protect your winnings.

Raise to 20 pre. The sizing is due to being OOP and having some money in there. You are deep, this is a good hand, there is no reason to let people in for 5. Letting people in for 5 ends up with someone having some random garbage and crushing you on the river.

As played, at some point, you need to shut down the betting on the flop for pot control. In general, when you get raised, I think flatting is the right play here. If your opponent is bluffing, they are going to shut down on the turn, and if they aren't, you are going to find a way to get the stacks in by the river.

This is now a sick spot. I think you have to fold, but I absolutely hate doing it because I believe you are ahead at least 30-40% here.

There is no way V doesn't have a straight or TT here unless he is a complete idiot. Who 5bet shoves a limped pot on the flop without the nuts or second nuts?

I tank called, villian had 8 J for the nut straight. Brick brick gg no re.

As i said before, i flatted because it was already heads up. I didnt wamt to bloat a pot oop preflop against the unknown with a deep stack.

Yep...

4-bet/folding is bad. Raise pre. There is no reason to let the dudes to see the flop for $5. Someone with garbage will come for $5 and give you problems by the river. The way has been played and how is now I feel sick. I don’t know what to tell you.

AK