This is by far the grossest spot I've ever been in, and probably will be for a long time.

5/5/10 Bike, $2900 effective

Villain is 30s white guy, played a couple hours with him. Says he's primarily a tournament player - got knocked out of a $500K guarantee and sat down at 5/5 2 hours ago. Been running really well, sitting with $3600ish. Tight pre and not very aggressive post. Doesn't seem to bluff raise draws much, when he shows aggression he tends to have it. Also tends to overvalue hand strength general - called a large pot-sized river bet with trips on a four-flush run-out, and a couple other similar spots.

Hero has also been running good and thus has very aggressive table image, 3-betting often pre, raising a lot of flops and turns. Been caught bluffing a couple times but mostly have been showing down the goods. $2900.

OTTH

$10 UTG straddle
Hero with A2 in SB
EP open to 40
Villain in HJ calls, BTN calls, Hero calls

Flop [180]: 9TJ
Hero checks, PFR checks
Villain bets 120
BTN folds
Hero raises to 450
EP folds, Villain calls

Turn [1080]: 4
Hero bets 750
Villain jams for 2400 effective

Hero?

One other thing I should mention - the Bike was doing a high hand promotion this day, where every half hour, the biggest hand at the casino wins $550. There is a TV across from villain that shows the current high hand and how much time is left before they pay out. When flop hits I think I see him look up at it for a second out of the corner of my eye, but not completely sure. It wasn't something I was looking for, and was more concerned about how to get max value from lower flushes. It wasn't until he jammed on me that I seriously considered the possibility of getting straight flushed.

Sorry. This spot sucks. He could have K8hh or an even lower flush, but I still am not loving life. Seeing him eye the HH promo makes matters worse.

But I have to think: if he has the nuts why jam turn rather than call turn and jam river? He has position. His bet looks like a smaller flush trying to price out the Ah. I guess I'd sigh call. If he has it, it's just a huge cooler.

Pretty disgusting spot, but I think you have to go with it here. Not sure how I feel about the raise. Your range from the SB is very well-defined/narrow, and it's not like you're raising sets here or KQ. But you do have a bad/aggro image, so in a way I like the raise. In a vacuum, I'm not raising this flop but in this exact scenario probably am

he can also play JJ TT 99 K8hh Q8hh 76hh QhJx QhKx this way, and even if you discount that range heavily for this particular player, you're left with enough combos to call this profitably imo

Well at this point it really isn't the nut flush right? It's the 4th nuts.

My gut says you're beat. Price is too good to fold.

Poker is so dead in 2018. People want to fold nut flushes on non-paired boards.

Do you limp A2s UTG normally? Probably not, which means you should fold this preflop.

As played, there's just no way in hell Im folding. If he has a straight flush I have a great story to tell after I recover from the shock, but Im not folding.

Thats why you bluff the "good players" into oblivion.

...snap call...

I hope you didn´t "tank". just snap it off.

If you don’t call easily here then you’re playing too deep. If he has it, he has it. Oh well.

This spot isn’t that gross. I call here and expect to be good most of the time.

That jam is only a 1.25 PSB, so not really a crazy overbet and not that hard of a decision. I agree with whoever said it looks like a price-out bet for the Ah.

Although in absolute terms that looks like a lot of money, if I am properly rolled for this game, I'd be snapping this off.

easy call imo

If this was river action ya you can consider folding but on the turn I think people are calling straight flushes at some decent-high frequency and also he can have a hand like AxQh or KxQh/KhQx/QhQx and possible a hand like 76hh/all sets.

This is all just theoretical. Nobody really makes all these so-called bluffs in reality because they seem suicidal on the surface.

Given that you made a thread about increases the likelihood that you called and he had it. But not sure that really matters all that much.

Pot is laying you $4230/$1650 or 2.6-1. You only need to be good 28% of the time to call @ 0EV and I don't think it is all that close...you are good WAY more often than that.

Sorry you got coolered.

When the flop came, you already had the 3rd nuts, not the nuts.

So if you were ever going to consider not stacking off in this hand, why did you raise the flop and bet the turn?

Wouldn't you have jammed a safe river if Villain had just called turn?

There's no way I'm playing the hand this way only to fold now.

We're 290bb deep because of the straddle. PF, I'd likely play more fold/3bet than call especially with all that dead money in the pot already. Kinda goes for most of my sb range, unless there's a whale in the field. Hard to extract value from out of position to counter all the times we wiff & have to give up. As played, I take this more as snap call praise Jesus moment than a gross decision especially vs a tourney player who overvalues his hands. Not even sure how that's debatable, but here we are. I think straight flushes just call turn fairly often. Why push out our trips, draws, and low flushes. If V calls turn, there's only a 65% pot-size bet left on the river.

This isn't really too gross considering it's pretty easy for villan to be value jamming a worse hand than ours on the turn. I can understand how you arent fist pump calling (you should be snapping, but w/e)

Here's a gross one.


Open A8dd, 2 calls.

Flop Kd4d5c, we cbet and get 1 call.

Turn Qd, we bet again - call.

River 9d, we bet again and get raised by a villan that we've played many hours with and has a bluffing frequency of ~0% in this spot.

Break: what shorn and others have said. Not much to think about here, call. Not only do I think you have more than enough equity to call, I think you are the favorite vs his range. In my experience, most straight flushes will call that turn with these stack sizes.

Bigdaddy: that doesn’t seem like a very gross/tough spot at all. There are four diamonds on the board and you hold the Ad vs a guy you know well.

2 outter SF OTR when you turned an A high flush isn't gross?

Corn,

1) 1-outer

2) he said OP wasn’t put in a gross spot, which I agree (even if he lost). Neither was bigdaddy based on his description. Of course it sucks to get 1-outed.

I stand corrected! I also agree OP is less than gross but still gut check worthy. But the one outter on the river is gross in my book. I guess it has to be for 300 BB for you to get on board?

C,

Bigdaddy has a relatively easy fold in that hand given his holding, the board, and his opponent.

A couple people have mentioned that it's no longer the "nut flush" because of SF possibilities. It actually is still the "nut flush." A straight flush is a different category of hand strength. Hero has the best possible flush that is not a straight flush, so it's the nut flush. It's not he "nuts," but hero never said it was.