1/2NL Cash live.
Stacks vary from 50bb to 150bb.
First orbit, no player profiles.

Hero gets AJd in LP
V1 bets $10. Hero calls with 2 others.
Pot = $40

Flop has 2 diamonds.
V bets $25.

Hero folds.
Terrible mistake?

9 outs = 18%/36% equity.
Pot odds were 65:25 or about 30%
There would have been a River bet, so I used next card 18%

Pot odds charging 30% for 18% equity = Fold.
Weak implied odds b/c when the 3rd suit hits, everyone respects a large bet and folds.

Again?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-draw-1461171/

Let's start at the beginning. The first thing to get some of the basic information down first. These are things that are directly in front of you and don't require any reads whatsoever. It can be the first hand and you can see these.

1. Villain's stack size?
2. Villain's position(Early, middle, CO, HJ)?
3. Your stack size?
4. Did you play any hands so far?
5. If so, what did you do and did you show your hand?
6. Which day of the week did the hand occur?
7. What was the time when it occurred?

Next, the following items (which is not an exhaustive list) are observable even in the first orbit:

1. Villain is male/female?
2. Are the stacks neat in groups of 20s or sloppy?
3. Are they neatly dressed or sloppy?
4. Did they cut their chips when make a bet or count it out?
5. How quickly did they look at their cards?
6. Have they looked at them again since the initial look?
7. How did they put the chips in the pot?
8. Is the villain drinking?

Even if you don't know why these are important, these will influence more knowledgeable players in their decision making process. And yes, better posters don't include all this information. The better posters know which elements are important and which aren't. At your poker development stage, it is better to give too much information than too little. The reason you keep seeing mods telling you this is because it is important for you to become a better player.

If you see no value in the above, then fold. You should fold all your FDs unless you're given direct odds to call for one card. The answer could be different for others and with more info, could change.

Very situational. With no good reads folding can't be a bad play. The exact stack sizes, board, postilions, and preflop play all matter. Everything you can tell about stack sizes and every clue you can get on villains help. Your trying to work out as much as you can about your equity and implied odds here based on very partial information.

There are a few key questions. Just how many outs do you actually have? Given the board is catching an ace or a jack likely to be good? Any chance of catching a straight? What are the chances it ends up in a chop? What are the chances that hitting your flush won't be good? What is villain's likely turn action? Is he likely to bet the turn or check? Has he been active or passive? Does he seem like a regular player or not? How many scare cards are there that might hit turn? If you do catch the flush, how likely is villain to pay you off? How obvious will your flush be? Has he been calling or folding to pressure? Does he give up on scary boards? How many cards are scary on turn?

Flush draws are a common situations, but they are so specifically situational that there really isn't a default way to play them. If villain is a weak/tight fish I would rather have top pair. I can bluff him off when draws come in and check down and see who has the best hand when they don't. If villain is a station, it can be profitable to chase obvious flush draws and bet huge when they hit. Against most, it really depends.

Ok, first flame troll response ignored.

One vote for fold.
Thank you.

I will first reiterate what others have said and say that first you do need to give us some more facts in order to really get good analysis. That said, I generally don't like playing flush draws slowly (wait and see if it hits) because when it does hit, like you say you rarely get paid off. Here, I would either raise (if I thought I had good fold equity) or fold (if I didn't).

What is the flop? If you have overs to the flop as well as the nut flush draw, that give you additional outs (exact number unknown, because you don't know for sure that you are good if you hit one of them, but somewhere between 9 and 15). I would often raise in that situation, as if your opponent folds, you don't need to even hit any of your outs.

As venice noted, this is also villain dependent. If he's a "auto c-bet" type, then your overs are more likely outs and he's got a lot more air in his range. If he's a grumpy old man, I fold, as he'd really only betting overpairs+ (maybe TP) into 3 opponents, so your overs are less likely to be outs.

This also depends on the other V's. If you call and they call behind, you suddenly are getting better POs and the possibility of over-flushing one of them, but if you call and one of them raises, you may be in bad shape. This is better if you're in position, because you know what they'll do already.

Seriously, poker is complicated, and you need to stop trying to simplify it.

Yeah OP, we need to know more.

Other things to consider:

You prob have more than 9 outs (your A prob has 3 more outs if he has overpair that is not AA). Your J can possibly also give you outs.

What are your chances with this villain of getting paid off if flush hits?

How much fold equity do you have on flop with this villain?

How would villain react to min raise here? (Would it make him call and auto check turn?)

We need to know how deep you and villain are individually, not just how deep stacks are at whole table.

Poker isn't simple but take it 1 step at a time and build your knowledge/skill/
GL

Don't remember the flop.
I didn't have my secretary with me writing everything down, LOL.
Just remember there were 2 diamonds. Sorry.

These are things winning players pay attention to and remember for many, many reasons.

Just saying, it is hard enough to beat the rake paying close attention - it is impossible to do over time with this level of thinking.

If you're trolling, this is top-notch trolling. I kind of think you're trolling. Kudos.

You should get in the habit of recalling your hands down to turn and river cards, as is you're being viewed as a fit or fold player who will get blown off each flop without a pair. Shoulda jammed

Not sure if serious, but if so, you need to stop playing poker for money right now. No, really.

Then do a search on "notes at the table" and learn how to do it. Then try play money. Then micro-bi bar poker. Then once you can actually note everything, you can come back to 1/2 and not be dead money.

The OP is almost incoherent. We have no idea what is going on in the hand, how are we supposed to help you? That said, you have been given some horrific advice so far.

Advising a fold on this flop is some of the worst advice I have ever seen on here. You are calling with AJdd and then folding the nut flush draw to a slightly greater than 1/2 sized pot cbet??? Is this a joke?

OP this is a clear a call as it gets. Depending on the flop, (which we don't know because you didn't tell us) this could be a raise but a call should be your go to.

OP has his own thread in Beginner's Forum, but thinks he can get feedback better aligned with what he wants to hear in LLSNL, even though information provided is identical.

Never folding nut flush draw for $25 into $40 on the flop. You will almost always make up the $9 of -EV. Hell, bet $5 and $5 on the turn and river when you hit if you're that worried he'll automatically assume you have the flush when it hits. Folding here is ridiculous.

I did this, and found a probably pretty decent recipe for low-carb pecan tilapia!

But yeah, without an actual flop, there isn't really any hand history to analyze.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...notes-1181822/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...notes-1181822/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-live-1446074/

And that's just a keyword search in B&M and LLSNL for "notes"
dgiharris (IIRC) has a nice shorthand for recording a HH, but I don't recall if it's in one of those threads.

dgiharris shorthand
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...1/index47.html

Thanks, Disinherited. Can you post a link directly to the post that gives it? That thread is almost 5K posts long now.

Edit: Here it is http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=691

The most recent threads by RickAversion have been locked.

Not to mention you locked RickAversion's sn.