Is this a fold against an unknown? - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Live No-Limit Hold’em Cash

Is this a fold against an unknown?

Post Reply Subscribe

...

08-01-2010 , 10:04 PM

gatorlaw

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 321

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $315.00
SB: $160.00
BB: $295.90
UTG: $152.00
UTG+1: $125.00
MP1: $160.00
Hero (MP2): $206.00
CO: $62.20

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP2 with T

2 folds, MP1 requests TIME, MP1 raises to $12, Hero calls $12, CO calls $12, BTN calls $12, 1 fold, BB raises to $295.90 all in, 1 fold

Quote

08-01-2010 , 10:10 PM

Renton

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,822

look at previous hand histories

Quote

08-01-2010 , 10:18 PM

Rampage_Jackson

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,772

Not necessarily, since MP1 only has 160

Quote

08-01-2010 , 11:05 PM

gatorlaw

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 321

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

look at previous hand histories

huh? on this forum, you mean?

Quote

08-01-2010 , 11:23 PM

loco

The First Golden

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,874

Its a simple math problem. Against JJ+,AK its a fold. If you add AQ to villain's range, its a call. I assumed nobody behind hero was playing JJ and decided to call though.

Lay her down. In general, 75bb stack sizes don't squeeze often. He would have to be squeezing around 4% or greater for this to be a call. I think if you look at the squeezing stats for randoms with 75bbs stack sizes, their squeeze % is probably 2. Fishies don't squeeze often. I guess its a trick that is too beyond their simplistic tendencies. I hope they don't pick it up because it would increase variance and probably lower our edge.

Quote

08-01-2010 , 11:56 PM

Renton

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,822

No i'm saying he's probably not unknown, considering the goofy stack size. In a weird all in pre spot like this the first thing you should do is click previous hand histories at that table to see if he's been pulling any crazy ****.

Quote

08-02-2010 , 12:59 AM

gatorlaw

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 321

This was a shallow game so everyone has a wierd stack size. Sorry, I thought the hand converter made that clear.

Quote

08-02-2010 , 01:09 AM

loco

The First Golden

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,874

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorlaw

This was a shallow game so everyone has a wierd stack size. Sorry, I thought the hand converter made that clear.

Uhhhhh, that's an important detail. This is probably a relatively easy call then. I mean who open shoves AA, KK like that. He now is heavily weighted toward AK and maybe AQ.

Quote

08-02-2010 , 01:30 AM

slowlane123

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,615

call if you really like variance

Quote

08-02-2010 , 01:35 PM

#10

jimmyvjv13

Life Grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,975

TT almost picture pair and call all picture pairs.

Quote

08-02-2010 , 06:07 PM

#11

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,622

You have a friend and its name rhymes with cableratings

Quote

08-03-2010 , 11:48 AM

#12

shorn7

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowlane123

call if you really like variance

This. Regardless of range (we can debate that all day), this is more of a "comfort with a style of play" decision. If you court variance, then call. If you play more conservative and hate to flip, fold.

Quote

08-03-2010 , 06:37 PM

#13

loco

The First Golden

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,874

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorn7

You call if you have positive EV. Period. Whether you have +EV here is debatable. But your post is just plain silly.

Quote

08-03-2010 , 07:06 PM

#14

Renton

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,822

It wouldn't be silly if this were 2005 and games were absurdly soft. But now when edges are as tiny as they are, its ridiculous to pass on an edge.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...