Vallain is 19/15/4 over good sample with 5.5% 3 bet. I was playing about the same. Is this a fold?

Full Tilt Poker $600.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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SB: $787.30
BB: $704.45
UTG: $436.80
Hero (UTG+1): $722.75
MP: $600.00
CO: $232.00
BTN: $606.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is UTG+1 with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, BTN calls $18, 2 folds

Flop: ($45.00) K K 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $30.00, BTN calls $30

Turn: ($105.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $78.00, BTN calls $78

River: ($261.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $215.00, BTN raises to $480, Hero ??

im not folding ever given pot odds and peoples tendancies to overplay their hand. If he has quads so be it, you only have to be good like 25% of the time.

I never fold here.

tough to find a hand u beat, but i never fold

hand that beats you = hands you beat - 1

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minus the 1 combo of KK.

he has a king like always, i fold

You can't fold! Well not vs a good player at least. So anyone who raises the river is going to be given credit for the 4 of a kind?

you gotta be kidding, theres 8+ combos of quads he can have.

very witty

I don't fold this to a player like that.

But then again I wouldn't play it the same as you did. If he is a good player he will never call 3 streets with QQ or less. So when I'm called on the flop I either far ahead or far behind and I go into a pot control line where I c/c turn and c/c river, let him value town him self.

Call. What did he have that he left that change behind?

FYP

i can't believe i am the only one in this thread who makes this super standard fold.

It's prob a fold since it's not like he ever has anything less than a decent full on the river. There's no reason for him to turn it into a bluff since we rep QQ, AA, KQ-AK or bluff (i.e. polarized range), and there should be no expectation of us folding any of that except the bluffs. I mean, he could also be spazzing w/ like 7's full or 9's full that got conterfeited, I guess? But that seems like a stretch. Imo, nobody (except Renton and super nits who make other, bad folds all the time) makes this fold in practice, which is another reason why he's not bluffing, but yeah, looking at it from my house, drinking my cup of coffee here, and leisurely thinking it through, it's almost definitely fold.

i fold too

You love folding the seconds nuts TE. Its okay to have done it up to this point, but now that this reputation is spreading, time to never do it again.

Why do we play this game is the question with tough decisions like this?? Having said that, it is a fold if he had 7's or 9's full he is coming over the top by 4th st right?? I feel he clearly has KQs or KJs but im still calling because i would not sleep for a week torturing myself about this hand

but i'm a jagoff 2

Looks like KQ.

We have the best hand here like never.

fold this!?!?!? poker is still alive in 2009 thanks to the nits.

lol

i folded. sorry no results =D

Wow, gguzman you are such a nit for folding the rough equivalent of a one card 2nd nut flush. The games are still alive with no small thanks to you!

Villain is raising, but doesn't want to scare us away.

I'm not happy about it, but this is a fold imo. Villain raises without quads here like never.