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Flush draw OOP against whale Flush draw OOP against whale

04-06-2024 , 08:29 PM
Game is $2-$100 spread-limit (most you can raise is $100 over previous bet). My stack is $280, V covers. Villain is VPIP-ing about 95% and is drinking in the middle of a weekday afternoon.

UTG raises to $10, UTG1 calls, V in UTG2 calls, Button calls, I call in SB with KhTh, BB folds. 5 see a

FLOP: QhQd7h (pot: $50, 5-ways). I check, UTG raiser checks, UTG2 checks. Villain bets $10. Button folds. I raise to $55. Two folds. Villain calls. Heads-up—

TURN: QhQd7h Kc (pot: $160)

Question 1: Should we do anything besides bet $100 here, targeting 7x/88-JJ, other flush draws? I do in fact bet $100. V calls.

RIVER: QhQd7h Kc Td (pot: $360)

I have $120 left.

Question 2: Should we check-call or bet $100 ourselves? (I will ignore the question of whether I should call the extra $20 if he shoves over my $100 bet.)

I do check. He instantly bets $50 (???).

Question 3: Do we just call, or check-raise all-in to $120???

Thanks!
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04-07-2024 , 04:57 AM
This game feels like riding a road bike with the brake pad rubbing the rim.
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04-07-2024 , 06:31 AM
Feel you played ok, call on end. Looks like you bricked a draw. Don't think you can raise and get a call from worse. You could have bet 100 yourself on river if you can get value from 99 88 Tx but then you lose the chance of him bluffing. He can have qx of course too

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04-07-2024 , 07:17 AM
Gambling and drinking at a casino! :O

I think we need to check call river as he’s usually gonna have trips or air and might value bet worse. You block both fd that made a pair.
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04-07-2024 , 03:10 PM
PRE - Flatting seems fine. Raising would also seem fine.

FLOP - Not sure why we'd raise here, with no pair, just the 2nd nut flush draw and a BDSD. Are we just trying to fold out PP's that can boat up? V bet 20% pot into four opponents, and isn't the PFR. Hard to see what his bluffs would be, unless he's just stabbing with AXhh.

TURN - Not sure why we'd keep betting when we turn top pair with a decent kicker, unless we're specifically trying to fold out AXhh. We're losing to Qx and 77. Doubtful someone would get here with a hand we need to worry about sucking out, like JT, AJ or AT. Not sure 7x-JJ is going to call a turn barrel after we raised flop and they don't improve.

RIVER - Since V bet-called flop, and called our turn bet, I'd think check-call is the best line here. Let him turn AXhh into a bluff or bet for value with a worse hand.
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04-09-2024 , 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Game is $2-$100 spread-limit (most you can raise is $100 over previous bet). My stack is $280, V covers. Villain is VPIP-ing about 95% and is drinking in the middle of a weekday afternoon.

UTG raises to $10, UTG1 calls, V in UTG2 calls, Button calls, I call in SB with KhTh, BB folds. 5 see a

RIVER: QhQd7h Kc Td (pot: $360)

I have $120 left. I check. He bets $50 (???).
RESULT:


I just call, Villain flips over JcJd. My Hand Is Good.
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04-09-2024 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davomalvolio
RESULT:





I just call, Villain flips over JcJd. My Hand Is Good.
Nice hand.

Make a mental note that V is unbluffable, and will bet crazy thin for value when most others will check back.

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04-10-2024 , 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by docvail
Nice hand.

Make a mental note that V is unbluffable, and will bet crazy thin for value when most others will check back.

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He was weird on the River against me. Earlier he did NOT bluff in a mandatory bluffing spot (he’s the limper here:

3 limps I raise QdQc to 17 in SB, 2 calls (BB and first limper). Flop J87dd. I check, BB bets 20, limper calls, I call. Turn 6d. I x, BB bets 20, limper calls, i x-raise to 100, BB folds, limper calls. River 4x. I x he x. He has 97hh, MHIG

So when he made that $50 River bet on this KT hand, I was almost certain he had it—just, I’m not folding top pair getting 8:1.

Last edited by davomalvolio; 04-10-2024 at 03:09 PM.
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04-10-2024 , 03:09 PM
I would just call the flop with that many people in the hand and being OOP.

I don't see why you would consider raising the river, he gave you an ok price to call and see if he missed a FD (or had a lower pair under a king).
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04-10-2024 , 05:53 PM
Easy call on river

Flop raise is meh
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