Have mercy, this is my first post and am trying to use your standard format, I generally just lurk.

Stakes: 1/3
Hero: 500
Button: 400
UTG: ~200ish maybe
UTG+1: 900ish

Table image: Hero perhaps a bit tight aggressive, haven't really played many hands to show down, just one actually. Been here about 1.5 hours.
Button was here already. Has tried multiple bluffs and failed. Shoved $500 effective against UTG+1, few hands hands ago with AK on a board of K Q 10. Table is relatively soft and volatile, money moving all around pretty often

Hand: Td Jd
UTG+2 raises to 15 (fairly standard as he was raising many hands, big range). CO (Hero) calls. Button Calls. UTG calls.
Pot ~60

Flop: As Qc Kc
Checked to CO. Hero raises to 40. B calls. UTG calls. UTG+1 calls.
Pot: ~210ish
Thoughts: I didn't expect so many passengers but I guess this board might've hit everyone, whilst I am holding the nut straight, these odds are so good for everyone.

Turn: 4s
Checked to CO. Hero raises to 105. B calls. UTG and UTG+1 fold.
Pot: ~430ish
Thoughts: Gotta bet big to let people draw against me? Great turn card. Happy to have gotten a shove with a flush draw or such, bit worried that UTG had the flush draw though as the pot odds were so great for him. I don't think he was that much of a thinker though.

River: Ac
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Also any other suggestions on how to play this hand are more than welcome, I'm a bit new to poker! Very new. I've been reading and studying but have't been playing seriously for any long.

Preflop seems fine, flop I generally charge a lot, almost always pot sized bet on wet boards. Turn is slightly small too, I tend to go ~70% pot. River, gross, but I guess I don't I hate laying it down to shove

Turn is your mistake here, you're giving draws incredible odds.

Has to be much bigger. Pot is 430 and you have about 350 behind? I would ship it here. Best case a draw/2 pair/set calls you, worst case you take a decent sized pot.

Pot is 210 OTT. OP is giving pot amount after the action, so when he says the pot is 210 in the flop section, that's after the calls.


Pre/flop are good
Turn has to be bigger, 150ish

AP, OTR, you have ~340 left, BTN has ~240 left, pot is ~430. I'd bet something silly small to induce a bluff because of reads, like $75-$100. Calling and AI all day long. If he has a FH, congrats.

Johnny you know that the flush it too right?

Just like everyone else has said I like the way the pre and flop were played. Need to bet more on the turn. The river. I'd just go throw up.

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Nope, completely missed that the river was a club! Thanks for pointing it out

Probably a bet/fold then

I would pot the flop and bet a shade more on the turn. As played, the river is a clear, if depressing, check-fold.

Ah, thanks. So yeah, I'd make the turn bigger (consensus is clear here). On river I bet small and fold to a raise. Unlucky.

turn has to be much bigger. and you have to bet river or you get outplayed it's an awful spot but i think if you bet more on the turn like you should have youd be clearer

Flop bigger for value.
There are about 12312 hands that will call a fat value bet here.
(Although later it was made impossible) any of the many AcXc hands in their range will call big value bets here.
Any TcXc, JcXc hands aren't folding either.

I'd generally default to $50 - $55 here on the flop.

Turn sizing is too small, $135 - $155 here as played.
Bigger if we bet bigger on the flop (again, 2/3 - 3/4 the pot).
This bet is somewhat to deny them correct odds, but also for fat value because I do not expect people to fold their strong hands here for a larger sizing.
We might lose some value from 1p hands, but we more than make up for it with all the combo draws that are calling.

As played on the river, I'd likely bet/fold here if we think that he might call with AJ/AT on the river.

I don't see the value in a river bet. We're not usually ahead when we're called, and he's not likely to bluff very often if we check (largely because he doesn't have many busted hands).

The flop can be $5-10 bigger, the turn needs to be a lot bigger. Like $150 min. to not let clubs draw profitably.

The river is interesting. A set, any 2-pair, we need to think is raising otf or ott. So we can eliminate those hands otr. So what's left? Non-nut flush draws and AJ/AT. So otr, there are 6 AJ combos, 6 AT combos, and how many fd's? Even with some weaker fd's this sounds like a guy who might raise in pos. So the flat/flat line makes me think AJ/AT is enough of his range that we can bet for value. You have about a half-PSB left. If you think BTN is always calling a shove with AJ/AT despite the clubs hitting, then I'd shove for value. If he's folding those trips hands sometimes and he's capable of turn SDV hands into bluffs, then as much as I hate blocking bets, I'd bet ~$50. I really hate a c/f and we're not deep enough to b/f a reasonable amount.

Bet turn bigger. Hand was played so passively by Villains. X behind river, you beat nothing.

This was my thought, too.

We're just never getting called by worse on this board. The only way we win here is if he checks behind, and I expect that to never happen. That river just makes me want to puke. I expect to c/f here, if I didn't already open muck from pure disgust.

The point of the river bet is more to stop us getting outplayed - Id be happy to pay 50 and see him show a flush rather than check and let him ship and have to fold to a potentially worse hand.

It's too binary to just assume bets only have 2 functions (fold out better or get called out worse) - a blocking bet is a prime example of a bet that doesn't achieve either, but is still functional.

Fine pre. I'd pot the flop and probably bet about 3/4 pot on the turn depending on the pot size.

Definitely check the river. I'm not sure it's an automatic check-fold. I think random Ax hands, especially AJ and maybe AT, may bet the river thinking they're good. I think the Ac isn't a completely horrible card. Would the button call down the flop and turn with just a J high flush draw or worse? I'm not so sure. Maybe JT/J9/T9 of clubs. Wouldn't AK and AQ have raised at some point in the hand?

I think that leaves 6 AJ combos vs. 3 realistic club SC combos. I'd probably call a shove from villain.

Thanks guys!
Well the consensus here appear to be that I should have pot the flop or at least a bigger raise and then another bigger raise on the turn, which definitely makes sense to really force them to pay for their draws.
My thought process on the river was that any bet I am making would actually force B to bet. I FEEL like if I had bet small (50ish), it either looks like an extreme "i have the nuts value bet" or a "this is a small bluff and please dont call".
He had previously bluffed on big hands on the river to try and just take pots when he felt he was behind, so I didn't really want him to pot it and just check it in hope he had a hand worth showing down but not betting. (He wasn't too much of a thinker and more of a thrill seeking gambler I believe)

The river went down like this:

You're right. Those small bets are 1 of 2 things. Either it's a blocking bet, you have SDV and want to freeze V and think he's only raising with the nuts. Or you're holding a nutted hand and you're trying to make it look like a blocking bet so V will raise.

First, seat change. We have the absolute worse seat at this table being to the immediate right of a deeper stacked loose non-ABC player who will constantly put us in tough spots postflop. I want more room between me and him and would probably try to snuggle up to the immediate left of the big $900 stack.

So the deep player opened? If he's bad postflop, I don't hate a call. But if he's not stacking off light postflop / ******ed, then I might just fold preflop as this isn't shaping up to be a multiway pot (as we're the first to call), plus we have the Button behind us who could really get in our way. If a shorterstacker opened (OP is a little unclear), then I think this is a fold given that we're putting in too much of our stack with a speculative hand in a pot that might not be multiway.

This is a pretty wet board that should smack somebody. There is absolutely no reason to get tricky here. Just hammer this thing. PSB, imo.

Exactly ditto for the turn. Mash this thing. Another PSB, imo.

River is interesting. Next time add up effective stack sizes left on this street, but it looks like we only have about a 1/2 PSB left. I really really really wish we hadda bet larger on earlier streets to make this a simple commitment. I'm guessing we woulda heard from two pair / sets earlier, so I'm not concerned about a boat. He could just have an A and definitely pay off a bet. If the main draw hadn't got there, I think there could be an argument for value betting (vs Ax) versus checking (to induce a bluff by a busted draw). But the bottom line here is that we've left ourselves with only 1/2 PSB left and I feel pretty committed to the pot, in spite of the horrible river card. If we check, he could possibly check back hands that would have paid off a shove, and against this guy we'll feel pretty committed to calling his made flush shoves. So I shove.

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