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Flopped a royal, now what? Flopped a royal, now what?

05-30-2012 , 12:36 PM
How do you plan to get $1600+ into the pot by c/c the flop? FFS, you must bet. You should be trying to get your opponents stack in the middle here, not shave thin value off something weak. This is where you go for the whole enchilada. If he gets to showdown with set+ and have money left, you have failed miserably.

I lead $150, call if raised (please dear God). I think the b/3b line is too strong.

If you think V will try to move you off the hand on the turn, you might try a c/r, but I still think betting is going to get it in easier. $400 OTT makes the pot $1300 or so and you both should have around a 2/3 pot bet remaining. Look a little pained and ask the dealer to spread the pot before you act on the river. Make sure he knows how much is in there when you bet.
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05-30-2012 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
Yes there is a small bbj and high hand bonus. The high hand doesn't need to reach showdown. The bbj was 5-6k
With such a small BBJ, then it's really up to you what it would mean to you in potentially costing yourself a jackpot. In this case, your share would be a mere 1.5K, so obviously you wouldn't be losing any sleep over this.

If a guy offers us a once in a lifetime chance at selecting 1 of 4 boxes, with $X dollars being in one of the boxes, and $0 being in all the rest, plus also says we have the choice of not selecting a box and simply taking 1/8 of $X and running, the correct mathematical play is to always choose a box (where on average we will win 1/4 $X which is >>> 1/8 $X). But there comes a point where 1/8 $X is simply worth taking because it would mean so much to our life financial situation. If X = $100, I'm selecting a box. If X = $1,000,000, I'm taking the $125,000 and feeling pretty good about things, even though clearly it is not the most +EV move.
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05-30-2012 , 01:13 PM
Where I play there is no BBJ.
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05-30-2012 , 01:18 PM
There is literally no hand that won't call but will shovel money in

a) as a bluff
b) when it improves on the turn

unless villain is totally brain dead. Really what the **** hand can we have that is C/C here or suddenly shoveling money in on the turn after a flop check through.

On the other hand and club ace or king (14 cards) could really stop us getting stacks from flopped monsters.

BET THE FLOP FFS
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05-30-2012 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hicham009
We still have 2 streets of value to come if he checks it back, if he completely missed we're getting **** all value anyways, but he can ''catch up'' with his pocket pairs he called with since he's deep enough to setmine.

And if he did flop a monster, we're getting the money in anyways on the turn and or river.
He has a maniac image. How many maniacs ever check after betting? With his image, checking is horrible and will turn his hand face up as a monster as soon as he checks and then raises or leads turn/river.

Bet/bet/bet is the line here. He loses a ton of value if the flop goes check/check and another club hits turn.


Yes, most of the time when we flop everyone dead and we have the deck crushed, we want to slow down and let someone catch up, but fact is, with hero's image, villain either has a hand he's going to go with or doesn't. He may have decided he has TP and he's not going to let maniac hero push him around. Bet/bet/bet.

Also....how can he even "catch up"? If he has 2p or set, he's not going anywhere. If he has TP, he's likely not going anywhere against villain. And by "not going anywhere" I mean on the flop. When you let him "catch up" the only thing you can hope for is an A or K to come out and villain has 4 card straight and even that may be a scare card that shuts him down. That's the absolute best. He's not putting villain on flopped flush. He's not going to wait for the board to pay if he has 2p or set....so there is no "catching up" in this type of hand, only action killing cards mostly at this point.

bet/bet/bet
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05-30-2012 , 02:04 PM
I agree I played poorly. I called the hundred checked the turn which was a small club. River was a blank, I led and folded. Think he showed the dealer 1 pair no clubs
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05-30-2012 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pokeryayyy
Bet/bet/bet is the line here. He loses a ton of value if the flop goes check/check and another club hits turn.


Yes, most of the time when we flop everyone dead and we have the deck crushed, we want to slow down and let someone catch up, but fact is, with hero's image, villain either has a hand he's going to go with or doesn't.
This, but mostly the bold.
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05-30-2012 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
I agree I played poorly. I called the hundred checked the turn which was a small club. River was a blank, I led and folded. Think he showed the dealer 1 pair no clubs
This confirms that live marks rarely double barrel.
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05-30-2012 , 07:08 PM
Bet bet bet, no need to get tricky he can hit a good pair and think you're tilting/semi bluffing/etc. If he just folds he would not of bluffed if you checked imo.
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