Back playing poker again the last few months after a few years break...

Played a lot during the Moneymaker & online boom and also posted here a decent amount back in the day. Forgot my original username its been so long. Kids are grown up so have more time...why not play some poker!


1/2NL 9-handed. Typical live table with a mix of tight & loose passives, a nit or two, a couple of TAGs.


Hero (MAWG) is in BB ($375) with 4s4d and should have a TAG image for anyone paying attention.

Relevant Player info:

MP: (~$150) - Very loose & passive, limping and calling raises probably 60%+ VPIP. Calls lots of flop bets, didn't lead out unless had something decent.
CO: (~$500) - TAG-ish MAWG that maybe also likes to see more flops than he should. Fairly new to the table. Open-raised ATs, AJo, 88 in EP. Opened from UTG and folded to my BTN 3-bet an orbit or so earlier
BTN: (~$220) - Tight, seems a bit nitty, so far hasn't put in significant money unless nutted or very strong hand.

On to the hand:

Preflop:

UTG+1 calls, MP calls, HJ calls, CO calls, BTN calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop ($14, 7-handed): 6s 4c 2s

SB checks, Hero leads $15, UTG+1 folds, MP calls, HJ folds, CO calls, BTN calls, SB folds.

***I'm not sure if leading or checking, planning to C/R is best here.

Turn (~$70, 4-handed): 8c

Hero checks, MP bets $25, CO calls, BTN raises to $95.

***Again, not sure if leading or checking is best here...now, the action and different stack sizes present an awkward decision. Flat? Shove? Fold?

I would be betting the turn, but as played I would probably jam only because stacks are shallow at that point but if I was deep I would usually just call with the goal of trying to get to SD (depending on how deep I was).

However, depending on how tight you think the button is, and if you think you have enough info to think he would never do this w/o a straight, I would easily fold.

Pre is fine.
Flop - given small size of pot, I think pot size is minimum so 15 is good. Depending on table I may go 20.
Turn - I lead here (~$50) especially given how wet this board is.

As played. Ugh. I think you can make a case for all 3, but it depends on dynamics of table

My default is probably fold if an uber nit, but how can he be an uber nit if he's limping with 57???
That said, raising into 3 others on turn is usually hecka strong from most players.
Jam won't get him to fold.

Call is kinda interesting. We don't have odds to boat up direct, but if MP and CO come along we will, but we also have to consider any of villains having a better set. And if we don't boat up are we really folding to the river jam given odds.

I might throw in a little raise pre-flop vs. this lineup.

I probably lead turn, too, but if not it's to check/raise, and here we are. MP and BTN are shallow enough and there are enough draws to just gii here. Sucks that it's a limped pot, but I'm not folding and I want to give CO wrong odds to chase.

And welcome back to poker and 2+2!

I think just get it in now. To many scare cards on the river, SPR is too low, and your primary play if you call turn should be to check river, and you can't force a bet when you check the river.

I think check raising or leading flop both have their merits.

Turn I don't see why we should check here. The board is very wet. Players can check to realize their equity. We should be planning to bet the turn and jam the river.

PRE - 7 limpers to the flop. Yep. Sounds like 1/2.

Checking your option is probably fine. With 6 people trying to see a cheap flop, I might prefer getting a little out of line and raising sometimes.

FLOP - LOVE the donk-bet multi-way. LOVE the full pot sizing. NOT being sarcastic at all. You flopped a set against a bunch of limpers. Let's build a pot.

TURN - We were only losing to 66 and 53. Now we're also losing to 88 and 75, but YOLO (you only live once), let's keep betting! Why are we checking?

As played, I mean...yeah, okay, we lose to 88, 66, 75, and 53, but we can't fold now, and we can probably only fold on the river if either of the flush draws come in. What kind of nit would the BTN be if he's getting here with 75 or 53? Why is he letting everyone see the turn if he flopped top set? Why is he raising now with 66 or 88 when he's losing to 75 and 53?

MP and BTN each only have about $100-$110 left? OMG, let's just get it in. Doubtful CO has much here if he's still flat-calling. We can stack MP and BTN without worrying about CO getting our whole stack.

Take all this with a grain of salt. I gave up trying to figure out what anyone was doing at 1/2 or 1/3, and just play ABC poker at those stakes. These guys are playing Bingo with Monopoly money.

Thanks for the thoughts & advice.

Wasn’t thrilled with my turn check & consensus confirmed it.

Leading turn also would have made getting my stack in there a much easier decision even if raised

I ended up taking the low-variance line and made a bit of a nit-fold. BTN did indeed have 75s. Of course river paired the board just to twist the knife.

Reading this literally caused me physical pain.

Live and learn.

Play on.