Villain (475) - Pertinent to this hand was villain twice pre-flop limp/reraising with AA & KK (once in late position). Previous history between us was losing 40% of his stack (his biggest loss).

Hero (750) - TAG playing far fewer hands than rest of table. Showing down only with strong hands.

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EP raises to 15. Villain (utg+3) and rest call to me (button). I have 107. I and the blinds call. Family pot.

(135)

Flop: A 6 4

Checks to villain, who bets 30. I re-raise to 90 (likely should have bet more, given villain's small flop bet in relation to pot size). Folds to calling villain.

At this point, I cannot put villain on a nut flush. Because of how he had pf l/rr with AA & KK, I think he would c/c the nut flush. With the 2nd or 3rd nut, I'd expect a crai. Because he flatted my rr, I put him on an A with Q, J, or possibly K.

(315)

Turn: K

He checks. I bet 200. He instantly pushes all-in. I tank. Now I think his range is A & K, KK, A & Q/J, QJ, Q9, J9, 89, 23, 66, or 44.

Thoughts?

I think we can rule out 66 and 44 as he'd likely either shove OTF or c/c the turn. I guess AA is in the same boat. It would be a really weird line of aggressive, passive, passive, aggressive. With a set I think aggro, aggro, aggro or aggro, passive, passive, passive would be more likely.

I think A with a big Diamond kicker goes this way as do made flushes. As played though you are kind of committed to call now. I am not sure you were ever going to fold anyways.

If you believe that range, it is a fist pump call.

I take it you don't believe that range.

Minus the nut flush?

What range do you believe? As APD noted, flopped trips likely opens for more or crai otf. A with K or made flush appears most likely as his hand after crai ott. I didn't see A with J making this move. Maybe A with Q does. Given his previous l/rr with AA and KK, I think I have to add KK, too, which could play out the same way.

Nut flush just gonna call you again more than likely.... Of course because of the size of your bet OTT he may just think "well I dont think he can fold now." Either way you're pretty much stuck in this hand. Its WA/WB IMO.

I def weight against NF here, as well as sets. NF wouldn't likely do this, fearing the fold, and you already examined sets. I put one instance of each into stove, along with AxKd and KxKd, as well as one instance of AxQd and QdJd. I prob should have put one of the smaller flushes in too... At any rate, stove says fist-pump call.

wtf at folding, we've put in 290 and villians stack size at start of hand is 475.
cawl

don't call raises with suited middle gappers if you are uncomfortable stacking off with the ten high flush, you aren't going to flop 896 often enough to show a profit.

I made two errors in my original post: I stated that I called (which Venice edited out) and I stated that I tanked. I never actually tanked. Because of how he played the hand and the resultant range that I put him on, I insta-called. I was not "uncomfortable" with the possibility of stacking off here. Result?

He turned over KQ... and I was a bit floored that he led out on the flop with the nut flush, especially given that he had pf l/rr with AA and KK. Heck, because he held the Q, he knew that no one could have or draw to the 2nd nut.

That was the second interesting play I saw at the table that night. Earlier, a different guy reraised all-in heads-up after flopping quad kings. He got the fold he was apparently hoping for.

The interesting thing that it shows that you want to work your way to play for stacks with the nuts, even when you should "know" that nobody is going to play for stacks. I like the small bet with the ace on the board. It looks like a draw and the odds are high that someone will have an ace and want to "protect" their hand.

I like betting the nuts there way more than checking, pretty much always, people can always call with worse draws/pair and draw combos. I actually really like the way the villain played the hand, especially with the turn check shove. Most tags aren't raising the flop with a weak hand, so he pretty much always knows you are strong, and will bet the turn for him, allowing you to put in over half his stack.

I think what made leading out with the nuts such a winning play was that it was a family pot. Odds were that someone already had or was drawing to a good piece. That being stated, I was almost more surprised that he had the Q in addition to the K. Nobody could even draw to the 2nd nut, which made his aggressive move a bit more peculiar. If you're going to be that aggressive against someone who reraised you on the flop, doesn't it make more sense to push all-in instead of calling? That would truly disguise strength and also safeguard against an opponent backing off if a diamond hits on the turn. On the other hand, if the turn is a non-diamond, you can check with the nuts and, therefore, virtually guarantee that stacks will be going in when the flop reraiser bets, which is exactly what happened here.

Yep, he played the hand well. After he twice l/rr pre-flop with AA and KK, though, I didn't expect that he would open the flop from mp with the nuts. Obviously to my detriment, I labeled him as a *herp* I have a great hand so I'm going to c/c and then crai *derp* player.

Once you raise, he knows stacks are going in. No reason to do anything but let you hang yourself. On a safe turn, he knows you're betting. If a diamond came, he'd just bet enough to get you to draw and get the rest in on the river.

easiest snap call on turn

I think that much was obvious. How he acted after I reraised on the flop was pretty much standard.

Why do you think someone with the nut flush wouldn't CRAI? Hero is repping something like a set or flush with his flop raise and turn bet. Now would be the perfect time to get it all in. If he is up against a set, obviously he doesn't want to let that person draw for free and a diamond on the river would probably kill any further action. Also, a hand like TPTK probably isn't going to put any more money into the pot anyways, so I would think that someone with the nut flush would have no qualms about getting it all in on the turn.