Flopped boat vs 6 others 2/5 nl
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H - first hand back from a break. Posted and dealt J9hh in HJ position with $460 stack
Everyone covers me except one OMC, table was weak-loose and bluffy when I left.
Limps to MP2 who raises to $25, player in between folds and I am now to MP2s direct left. I call speculatively as I see 2 others prepare to call and cause a cascade of calls.
7 to the flop
Pot - $175
And a dream flop of
9d9cJc
MP2 bets $120
I am pretty sure club draws will continue to call and any trip 9 will call as well. Usually torn between raising and calling here.
H?
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Super easy call. Why would you want to push anyone out of this pot? Players with outs are likely to only have 2 or 3 outs so there is no reason to protect. MP2 is building the pot for us An added benefit of calling is that someone else may raise behind us.
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Fold pre.
As played, call and let the bluffy table do the work for you. No need to scare people.
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Fold pre, call down. Ship river if necessary.
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The only argument to raise here is to avoid another club coming and kill your action.
But with these stack sizes + bloated pot with 7 players + table reads, this is a standard call spot. MP2 betting into 6 other players really looks like QQ+, minimum AJ.
Call here and hope the someone drawing comes along.
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Ideally, call in a way that represents a flush draw. Against some players, that means calling quickly, as if you didn't even consider raising, like you might with a 9x hand trying to protect against draws.
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Agree with calling here for sure. Pot will be huge when you call and you can easily get the money in on the turn/river. By raising you just discourage non 9X hands to call/raise. If everyone was deeper raising may be alright.
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Thanks for the response everybody,
Usually in these situations I either freeze up and overbet to avoid missing out on the action (bigger pot or getting outdrawn to lose or split). I end up making moves without thinking and based on fears.
That's my biggest leak and these answers will help me reason it out next time.
I ended up calling and a short stack went AI (mucked when I showed) and all others including original Flop bettor folded.
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Call. Raising narrows our range to 9x and boats. I don't think we would be raising a draw on this board.
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
Call. Raising narrows our range to 9x and boats. I don't think we would be raising a draw on this board.
+1
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Grunch.
Calling pre-flop is quite marginal IMO when your playing a <100BB stack. Flop is a pretty clear call IMO. You will have absolutely no problems getting stacks in by the river if you just flat, plus by raising you will likely get a bunch of draws and one pair type hands to fold.
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snap call it, like you have a straight draw or a Jx type hand
