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04-29-2013 , 02:18 PM
New table.
Hero ~ 200$
Vil 1 ~50$
Vil 2 ~150$

Vil 1 limps from MP, hero in CO raises to 8 with K7cc, Button calls,limper calls
3 to a flop (24$) 7h7s3h
Vil 1 checks, hero bets 15$, button calls, vil 1 folds.
Turn HU (54$) 7h7s3h9h, i bet 25$, Button calls
River (100$) 7h7s3h9h2x Hero? Vil has about 100-110$ left
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04-29-2013 , 02:22 PM
1. Bet more on the turn, let's set this hand up to play for stacks.

2. What, exactly, is the question on the river? Arr In if you had made a good turn bet of like 35-40.
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04-29-2013 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
1. Bet more on the turn, let's set this hand up to play for stacks.

2. What, exactly, is the question on the river? Arr In if you had made a good turn bet of like 35-40.
fine getting it in even when the flush comes in ott?

might be difficult to get it in vs an uknown with worse when the flush comes in ott
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04-29-2013 , 02:29 PM
How much do i bet on the river? Do i call if he shoves th rest? Do i check/call or check/fold im inclined to bet/call but he'll have a lot of flush when he shoves over me so is bet/calling the best play?
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04-29-2013 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fogodchao
fine getting it in even when the flush comes in ott?

might be difficult to get it in vs an uknown with worse when the flush comes in ott
I missed the flush. We have to bet $5 more on the flop as a result.

I can't imagine checking turn and giving them a free card, though.

Once we bet we're going to be close to committed anyway, although it's a fold to a shove if villain is nitty.

River would be where I look to check back, not the turn.
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04-29-2013 , 02:42 PM
Keep in mind villain is unkown. Are we check/folding or check/calling river? Depends on the sizing?
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04-29-2013 , 03:04 PM
When we're attempting to isolate we should make sure we raise enough to possibly take it down preflop or at worse get this HU. I'm doubting $8 rarely does this. Going 3way to the flop ain't a good result with this crappy hand unless our plan is to always flop trips.

On the flop, we should be thinking about how to get stacks in and size our flop/turn bets so that this is easily done by the river. The fact that we still have >= PSB on the river shows we probably didn't really think this thru. I woulda bet a lot closer to pot on the flop, and also did a bigger turn bet to make river a trivial situation.

Even as played, I'd shove river. We only have a PSB left and we have trips. Can we ever fold at this point? The answer is "probably not". So in that case, we should shove ourselves which ensures that we get paid off by hands that can still pay off but would otherwise check behind.

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04-29-2013 , 09:45 PM
Maybe I'm being too nitty but what hands do you expect this shove to get called by? Small pocket pairs? A9?
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04-30-2013 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Grigory
Maybe I'm being too nitty but what hands do you expect this shove to get called by? Small pocket pairs? A9?
I agree, I'm leaning towards a super small bet of 45 and maybe he goes crazy and shoves. It'll be an easy call then getting 4:1.
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04-30-2013 , 12:05 PM
grunch: c/c

maybe a shove but we may just be value-owning ourselves and obviously we're killing any bluffs in villains range. doubt i can find a fold but wouldn't mind getting to showdown here with flush out there.
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04-30-2013 , 12:16 PM
Fold pre.
Now.
Bet 1/2 pot
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04-30-2013 , 12:26 PM
Pre isn't terrible at a tight/passive table. I'd raise more to isolate if that makes me more likely to end up heads up
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04-30-2013 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Grigory
Maybe I'm being too nitty but what hands do you expect this shove to get called by? Small pocket pairs? A9?
7x, overpairs, non-believing underpairs who put us on AK, etc.

Course, I'm also of the opinion that with ~PSB left there's only ever one bet size to be made on the river (a shove).
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