1/2 Saturday afternoon, late afternoon.

H has a stack of about 700 after 2 hours of playing solid and running good.

V1 is a young white kid, who is to H left and has the second biggest stack at the table maybe 600-650. V and H have been butting heads within the past hour or so.

V previous HHs - one of the first few hands V got a nice double up. V was button, and called an open of 15, flop went 4 ways, and it was kh10s5h, x, x, I bet 20 with KQ, V calls, xr to 80 from EP, I fold, V calls, turn is a black 3, xr jams for 300 total, V hems and haws and calls with 109hh, and gets a heart on river.

V HH #2 - I am button straddle he opens to 15 I am only caller with A2dd, flop comes J24 he bets, I call, turn low card, x,x river low card, he leads for 1/2 bot, I call he says 10 hi, I win.


V HH#3 - He button straddles, I open in CO with KQ to 15, he 3bets to 45, I call, run out is all low and middling cards, it x through he wins with A5o.



OTTH - V is in button straddle

EP fish limps, one other limper, I open to 15 with KJss, he 3b to 45, EP fish calls, I call

Flop (135)

Kd6d6c

EP x, I lead for 35, he raises to 80, EP folds and as he does a Kh is exposed. With this info H elects to call, maybe a mistake?

Turn (290ish)

Kd6d6c5s

H x, V bets 150, H?

Preflop standard, as V can be wide from BTN straddle with EP fish involved.

Check flop. EP xr would be tragic here as he can have 6x. The exposed K isn't terrible, as it makes it way less likely V has AK and that H has kicker trouble.

Turn: I feel like V has more midpair here given exposed K. V also feels H has fewer Kx with exposed K. V should probably check back and if he's betting I think he has more 99-QQ here than FDs.

So I'm just calling him down. He has shown that he is tricky. The 5s isn't a bad card for us since it reduces his 65 combos.

Weird. He must know you have a K, and while it's unlikely he does since the Kh was exposed, he's still betting into you. He was sticky and bet a little in the previous hands, but he didn't get out of control and slowed down when called. He's not doing that now, so something is up.

Maybe check the flop to let him bluff at it, but now I'm concerned. I guess call turn and see what he does on river. Kind of a gross spot.

This is kind of a sh-it show of a hand.

Pre: I'm 4-betting to $200 in this configuration all day against this player and a fish.

Flop: AP, not sure why we are leading. We may have more 6 in range but it's 3 handed and our exact hand is good enough to c/c all the way. And do we EVER do this when we have a 6?

Turn: Call again, esp after seeing exposed K. V has more incentive to continue bluffing. He should actually be worried that we have a 6 if we continue calling after seeing the K exposed.

Leading is bad. Like bad bad.

Fold turn.


Better spots. We know a K is dead and he’s leading into us still. Odds are he’s going to bomb River and unless we want to hero call, time to go.

Donking flop with a big range disadvantage isn’t a thing. Also our hand would prefer check call over bet call. As played with exposed Kx I think we have an easy call down.

Results: faced with the bet size on the turn I figured if I called I would be most likely facing an all-in on the river, so with that in mind I made the fold.

In retrospect I should have just went with it, especially with the other K being folded.

We talked about the hand a few minutes later and he said he had AQdd, and that if I would have called the turn he would have slowed down if he had missed the river. I doubt he's telling the truth because that would have been the hand I would have said if I wanted to make someone thing I was bluffing but idk.

In hindsight I really think I was 'scared money' and was adamant on taking home a profit. Played another orbit after the hand and left.

Flop is a blunder. He is likely to cbet this flop, let him do so as you have a great hand to check call. This board crushes his range and it is not good for you. He has all the AK, KQ. You should be 4 betting AK all day with the limp callers WHO CALLED A 3BET. You also probably don't have a lot of 6x in your iso range pre as it likely would have limped behind. Your hand is also a good 4bet bluff candidate pre but I think a call us fine too. If you 4bet this pure you will have a ton of light 4bets.

As played, you're kind of screwed. He has all the AK and AA in his range. With one K folded, he still has 4 combos of AK, 6 combos of AA, and up to 4 combos of KQ. He probably doesn't have as many flush draws as you would think. AQ, AJ, AT, A5, A4, and then maybe some lower flush draw type stuff. He may not be 3 betting a lot of those hands pre. It might just be AQs even, maybe AJs, ATs.

I guess I don't mind a fold.

Would have much rather liked check call on flop, not looking to play a huge pot just yet.

Previous HH V 3bet A5o on the BTN. Maybe the range is tighter with a limper, but also maybe not because limper is super likely to limp/call but much less limp/call-3bet.

Would heavily consider 4bet with KQ after seeing A5o, KJs is on the edge and I don't mind any of the 3 options (esp. after limp/call-3bet happens).


I hate the flop lead, let the bluffer keep bluffing among many other reasons, but I'm also not folding top pair without a lot of reasons (like an A or d hitting the river) ... even more so after seeing a K.
Raising turn feels thin with KJ (KT no, KQ probably), esp. because there is some chance he is blasting off with AdXx that has 3 outs but it also feels like there are way more flush draws than better hands (also Adx hands get to bluff you off ~20% of rivers).

Also forgot to mention but I would put a decent amount of weight into how fast V raised flop ... people generally don't just snap raise KK/A6/AA/AK here with the (still bad) small lead, but will often snap raise Adxd because they want folds and they almost always have 2x9 outs and likely 2x12 outs.
Esp. so AK/AA where they want to check if they have the Ad and want to think a little bit about how they have almost no outs vs. a 6.