Hero -23 year old Indian guy. have been playing tight but have raised a like 4 hands to $7 or 8$. HJ
180$

V1-he been a little crazy he tried to bluff me when I raised with K10ddon btn flop came A9c8c. checks around than turn was Ac he lead for 8 into 24 I call than call him on a K river when he bet 26 into 40. MP

V2 -passive guy he's been calling not doing too much betting. He said me earlier that I've been quiet. 100$ Utg+1

V3- fit or fold older Spanish guy he has like 100$ SB


Hero has QQ

2 limps to v1 who makes it 7, I started raising to 7-8 than the whole table started doing it I flat and v2 v3 flat

Pot-30$ flop -Q58
Checks to me I check

Turn :A pot-30$
Checks to v2 who bets 5$ v1 folds I raise to $20( small siZing cause there's not much he can call me with)
V3 folds v2 thinks for a seconds than calls .

River-10 pot-70
He leads into me for 50 hero???? He has like 25 behind, he starred me down and said 50 than took a few second to put in his chips

River is meh. Not happy but not sure I could fold a set in this situation either. Your hand is so under represented villain could be betting two pair for value. So much got there on river he probably isn't doing that with just an ace but it isn't a sure thing you are beat.

There should have been more money in this pot before river though. 3 ways on flop after you limped pre you need to bet this flop. Your hand is super disguised and can get at least one call by lots of worse hands. The check/raise on the turn isn't nearly big enough, villain with a flush draw is very nearly getting the 4-1 direct odds he needs. You should probably lead for $20, but when you check raise you need to $40.

Bet otf.

Quadj, I'm in position also Ed diesel what's supposed to call me t board was actually dryer than Q85 I forgot what the other two cards were, but they were low cards,


Quadj- what two pairs could he have this betting 5 on the turn?? I think if he had an Ace h would bet more also if he flipped two pair I think a bigger bet on the turn

You should bet this flop most of the time. Your hand is under represented because you didn't 3 bet preflop. You are going to fold everybody out a lot, but you have a huge hand and want to start building the pot if somebody has a lower set or 85 or QX and there are a lot of weaker 8X/5X/middle pair hands that will venture at least one call.

AT/T8 are the likely two pairs that you beat. I'm not saying this is a trivial call, I probably fold this a lot in practice because villain is going to have the flush a lot. I'm just saying it isn't an automatic fold.

Personally, I would bet for value, and to get the villain committed to the pot to extract more value on certain streets. Are you hoping an A or K hits the villain on the turn?

This is especially true if you C-Bet boards like this with something like A/K or top pair.

I would also raise much more on the turn, since straight and flush draws emerged.

when we flat we have to assign almost half the deck (range wise) PF to our 3 villains. then with this flop were crushing, and we check,? so now almost every single JT, 47 67 9T J9ss hh, etc to see a free turn so if the miss the straight they may pick up flush draws that gives them a real shot at stacking you.


I really feel like we must 3 bet this pre to build a big pot for when we flop big, Also, on this flop when you 3 bet, you get to narrow some Villains calling ranges and adjust accordingly when you go HU and see a 8 8 9 flop you pretty much know what you're up against as opposed to 4 way action on the same flop.

The heart on the river is the worst and know our hand is a bluff/bluff catcher that is now gonna cost too much to cry and call.

IMo

They may call with mid PPs, whiffed Broadway cards, straight draws, etc.

Just remember that they can't call if you don't bet!

Call riv obv. Win enough times.
+1 bet flop. Worry less about what they're calling with and more about how much easier it is to play ott with 80-90 in the middle this shallow. TheCake gave you a reasonable range or fishy calls on Q85r... This board is gutter world and Vs could call a lot more than you think.

Grunch:

Pre: are you set mining? Is his range KK+? Raise man. I have no idea why would just call.

Flop: I have no idea why you would not bet. There's lots of stuff that will call you. Against 3 players just bet and start getting money in.

Turn: what are you doing man? Build the pot! You just made it so easy for people to beat you. Even if they don't you're winning close to the minimum.

River: doesn't really matter. You need to work on how you got there.

Not set mining, just mixing it up and I don't mind playing against many vs in position.

I smashed the flop which is why I didn't bet the board was dryer it was actually I believe Q25,

Turn he lead so weak so I figured him for a draw , but I realize my sizing was a bit to small.

River the only hand this passive guy leads for do big is a hand he is confident about that he doesn't want getting checked .


Fwiw- I folded and showed a set of QQs he was like man I only had an Ace I told him to show he wouldn't so I figured he had the flush . It was my last hand which is why I showed I really wanted to see his hand

Also a 3 bet Would have probably taken it down preflop( I've been playing tight). V1 is loose but there hasn't been any 3 bets so I wanted to play a strong hand in position vs him

Bet flop, raise bigger on the turn, FD+SD appeared and call river. You want to be getting stacks in by the river, maybe turn given how short you all are. Because of how underrepped your hand is he'll bet for value with worse and can have some random nonsensical bluffs given how weak your line is.

Is this a 1/1 game or 1/2? If it's 1/2 I'd insta table switch, stacks aren't deep enough to get full value when we make monster hands like this one and that's where the value comes from in LLSNL.

If your 3 bet would have folded them (not just playing vs. one) then you should have been 3 betting more. You SHOULD mind playing this hand against multiple opponents for one bet preflop. You're throwing money away.

So what if the flop is dry. It's not a 3 bet pot. It's like you're offended to be playing for stacks. Your playing backwards imo. Play your big hands big.

A guy you describe as passive, made a public comment to you ( a stranger) about your lack of activity. The fact that villain didn't show you an ace after the hand is because he probably had something much worse. It sounds like the table is quite aware of your extraordinary tightness and is taking advantage.

I would strongly recommend playing your next session with a larger session bankroll. Or even consider having a drink or two before you play. I'm being serious. Start becoming more comfortable and confident in aggressive play, and open your mind to the variance that comes with assigning non-nut ranges to your villains.

This hand is an abomination. Sorry for being direct, but it is. For the love of God, bet money when you have the nuts.

It doesn't need to be much, this $5 lead that started the turn action, that could've happened otf and ott the shortstacks are getting ai or folding.