1/3 THR

Hero: $200ish. Mid 40's friendly. Probably viewed as tighter than I am as the best cards I got in the first hour of play was 78s which I raised and took down pre-flop from the button. Since then, I have opened up with better cards in position. Twice in the last 20 minutes I had big 3bets come over my button raise (I had AQs which I folded to an all-in and called AKo but folded the flop. Both times showed AA).

Villians: Seem to be mostly fit or fold types but will take stabs in position sometimes and over value TPNK.

Hero gets QQ in BB. UTG straddles for $6. Button calls, SB calls, Hero makes it $20. MP, Straddler and Button call.

Flop ($60ish after rake): Q73r

Should I check, bet small, or bet large like 2/3 pot or more.

If they are cognizant that you shouldn't be c-betting air into three people, then check is right. If they are the type of players who "put you on AK", then a half-pot bet is good.

Pretty much no option but to check here without a dynamic. If they have sets, you'll stack them no matter what, and what else can they have? The case queen should also bet for you. Hope they catch up.

I'd probably just make a 1/2 PSB looks-like-cbet and go from there. We've also folded a couple of times so maybe someone tries to fold us out again.

But I don't think checking is horrendous since we can still play for stacks by the river if the flop checks thru, and having a A/K or a magic card that hit's one of our 3 opponents come on the turn might be fairly profitable.

Gwhatever,imoG

I'm the kind of player that Cbets > 75% into <= 2 opponents. So I go ahead and bet. Since its dry, I'll make it 1/2 pot instead of 3/4 or pot. So bet $30.

That's the worst rake ever if the pot is only $60 after 4 people put in $20 to see a flop. Maybe you mean $80?

On the flop, I'd be sizing my bet to price out a gutshot. That does not have to be a big bet--even $30 would be more than enough. I'd go $35. If the pot is $80 like I suspect, this is a small bet and you may induce a bluff-raise from someone. If you get called, your stack is short enough that you can still get all-in by the river making 3 small bets.

I would absolutely not check. Don't count on anyone else to bet your hand for you.

I like to fast-play sets, but top set on a dry board is an exception. Since you've dried up the deck, there's almost 0 chance that anyone has anything worth calling you with and a c-bet will likely take the pot down. Especially given your fit-or-fold table description.

So check, and if it checks through, bet any turn. If you get all folds on the turn then you weren't getting money anyway.

If someone takes a stab you your situation is more complicated. c/r flop seems too strong. You will only be getting money from sets (rare) and 2pr (rare on this board). May as well call the flop. If the turn is lower than a 7, I say donk it. You might get calls from a 7. If the turn is higher than a 7 I'd say check/call turn and then PSB the river. PSB may make it looks like you're stealing and you could get called light.

If the board pairs a 7 or 3, praise your luck and build the pot at much as you can (donk bets, re-raises, everything). An A7/A3 might stack himself.

I think PF is too small OOP vs. 3 players. I'm probably making it $30 pre.

As played, I do agree that fast-playing is usually optimal at LLSNL, but on a board like this I think slowplaying is fine. You can still get the money in easily even if an entire street is checked through, and it's hard for someone to have much on this board when you have top set (and if they do, you're stacking them anyway). I'd c/c and then check turn. If the flop checks through, lead the turn for $50 and then shove the river for $110.

Result: I also usually fast play sets and didn't take time to think and went on automatic and lead out for $30. Of course it folded everybody out. If I had taken a few extra seconds, I would have checked. And doing the whole almost bet then check looks so weak I might have induced a bet anyway.

Very likely no one had anything, the flop would have checked around, and you would have bet the turn and achieved the same result. Either that, or someone folded a live draw. Don't worry about this one. You can't always find someone with a second-best hand.

If you don't know how to play a flopped set, - Let me tell you what to do: You got it man ......., lol...lol, check and let them draw for free. Giving them infinite odds and couple $$ dollars too because that's the smartest thing to do. Since you are OOP you got to check the turn and the river too hopping the opponent may bet. The opponent may figure you out for a flopped set, you never know, and than you ruin the entire super-profitable situation that you setup for yourself. LOL...LOL

AK

$30 flop, $60 turn, shove river, easy game. If nobody calls so be it. Your hand looks like QQ if you check flop then go nuts on turn and river. Someone could also pick up a draw on turn getting good odds since you can't bet that big on turn after checking flop.

We're going to get basically nothing from air and stack lower sets regardless, so think about how to play optimally against a hand like 78s. (Hint, it involves leading out on the flop.) Most opponents will call a small cbet here with a 7 or a mid pair. If the turn improves their hand, SPR and our perceived range will be perfect for us to stack them if we've bet the flop. If everyone folds to a small flop bet, c'est la vie, it's unlikely we'd ever get more than one bet out of them anyway.

Also, $20 is way too small pf. You're going to see a multiway flop OOP just about always.

More preflop,

As played, either estimate the pot better, or find a new game if that is the real rake.

If the pot on the flop is really 72, 55 on flop, shove any turn