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12-09-2011 , 07:47 PM

reptile6868

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5

Villain - Been pretty quiet but has gone all in twice (over-betting greatly) and hasnt had to show yet. seems to be passive-aggressive. blinds 1$/2$

V1 (400$) - UTG
hero (290$) - Button (7

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V1 - raises to 10$ folds to button
Hero - calls (sb & bb) fold (pot 23$)

Flop 7

V1- bets 25$, hero calls (pot 73$)

turn - k

V1 bets 30$, hero raises to 60$, V1 calls (pot 193$)

river - J

V1 goes all in, hero calls...
V1 shows pocket Kings

Is there anyway to fold 77 in this situation?

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12-09-2011 , 07:53 PM

ronflair

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 233

No way to flat that flop. Raise, it is the ideal payoff flop. What worse than an overpair can you rep on a blank turn?

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12-09-2011 , 10:17 PM

alew22

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 619

I make it $90 otf and call a shove. If he flats, shove any non-spade turn. You're stack is the size of the pot, but thats fine. If a spade hits, you could still maybe shove if you have a correct read or something, but i kinda like checking back.

As played, i dont like min-raise ott at all. With that Ks hitting, this board kinda sucks. We dont want to open the action back to him and i like calling to control the pot.

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12-09-2011 , 10:42 PM

Big Jon 21

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 822

Well you definitely played it backwards. I would definitely be raising the flop...There is wayy too much value to be had to flat. And dont post results because now everyone will have a biased opinion. I would raise to $80 otf. The interesting thing is lets say we raise to $80...villain flats. Once the Ks hits turn his range changes big time. He can no longer have AsKs and KK just caught up. So his range now looks like JJ+, AsQx. And im pretty sure AKo folds to our flop 3 bet. How do we approach turn here?

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12-09-2011 , 10:53 PM

francois8

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 478

You're asking the wrong question wanting to fold your set. Instead ask how to play it better. Start by raising the flop. Also, when you raise, get rid of the min raise from your arsenal of moves.

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12-09-2011 , 11:06 PM

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

LLSNL FF Champ '13

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,868

minraise screams set at $1/$2

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12-09-2011 , 11:19 PM

Zeth

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,763

This belongs in BBV, but since you asked: you are setting money on fire slowplaying your sets, especially on flops like this one.

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12-09-2011 , 11:24 PM

Richyrich9987

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,159

I think you should've raised with the board that wet. I think on a 3-flush 3-straight board it's possible fold prior to the board pairing.

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12-09-2011 , 11:35 PM

venice10

Referee

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 25,855

This is played poorly enough to avoid being BBV. Raise the flop. If you're going to raise the turn, raise by a lot more so the answer on the river is trivial. Personally it is hard to see what shoves the river that you beat but I'm not good enough to fold a FH on the river.

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12-10-2011 , 01:04 AM

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Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,522

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seems to be passive-aggressive.

He expresses negative feelings indirectly????

100% raise flop. AP,snap call and expect to often see turned flush, sometimes other boats, Jx.

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