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Flop NFD and get squeezed Flop NFD and get squeezed

05-28-2012 , 10:34 PM
25c/50c home game 9 players.

UTG has straddled to $1 which is not uncommon at all.

SB Villain 1 is a tag fish that plays occasionally but is level 1 thinker. $60

MP2 Hero Hosts these games and is regarded as a nit $75

BTN Villain 2 plays these games a lot and it one of the better players in the game. $80

game has been a lot more passive then usual as the biggest maniacs are not playing tonight.
folds around to me and i limp A8 folds to Villain 2 OTB who raises to $4, SB calls and i call in between

flop T63 (~12)

Villain 1 leads 6 into 12(pot 18)

Here is where i dont know how to act. i dont give much respect to the lead because SB villain doesnt know how to play poker so could be doing anything. im worried about villain behind.

lets also pretend i was HU with Villain 2 here as well and i had called in the blinds pre and been OOP. What kind of line could i take?


as played i flatted the lead and Villain 2 Raised to 16, Villain 1 folded and i called.

turn was a 7($50) i check folded when he jammed. he flipped QQ after
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05-28-2012 , 10:38 PM
I'd just shove all in after villain 2 raises, even if he has KK or QQ we still have 12 outs and it's pretty much a coin flip.
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05-28-2012 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
I'd just shove all in after villain 2 raises, even if he has KK or QQ we still have 12 outs and it's pretty much a coin flip.
This. Plus, flatting a donk bet then shoving over the PFR looks kinda strong. However you said he's a level one think so I doubt he folds. But still, you have a lot of outs and a bunch of dead money out there.

Also, I probably raise this pf myself when it's folded to me.
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05-28-2012 , 10:47 PM
Limp calling is pretty bad. If you are willing to call a raise here, just raise it yourself and take the initiative.

AP, V1 is giving you good odds for your flush, but PFRer is yet to act. I can see merit in raising here as a semi-bluff and a nit image. Calling is not awful, as long as you have a plan if V2 raises.

AP, V is offering you 3:1 on your money, which is enough to call with your draw, if you don't mind c/f a blank, and enough behind to have some good FE when you CRAI, but the l/c PF and flat OTF means you are repping only a NFD and a weirdly played set. FE would be low, so call and c/f turn is fine.


Your other "let's pretend" is so far from the original question that I'm not going to mix it in with this post, as it would get very confusing.

Edit: also, don't post results in OP

Last edited by Garick; 05-28-2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason: really, don't; not even spoilered.
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05-28-2012 , 10:59 PM
You should have folded preflop when he raised it.
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