Need some help analyzing this one please especially the blocking effects my hand has, both on the flush and the specific combos of AKs, AJs, etc. I knew my equity would be small...but I figured my chance to quadruple up gave me the odds I needed.

1/2 8-handed, button is on chair 5 I'm chair 1. I pop it to 10 with Kd Jd and get 4 calls from chair 2, small blind, big blind, and UTG. Players are all sober, reasonable, and not loose. It was 5 am. (So they may have been getting ready to go.)

Small Blind has 300, big blind and UTG have 75, and chair 2 will fold. My stack is no more than 75.

Flop comes Td 3d 4h

Korean or Japanese kid in a hoodie makes it 50 (so effectively but not technically a shove), big blind shoves, UTG shoves, it's to me.



How short does my stack have to be to make this a good call?



PF pot: 50...flop pot = 4 times the amount of money in front of me
$1: Risking 1 to win 54 so 1/54 = 1.8% equity needed
$5: Risking 5 to win 70 so 5/70 = 7.1%
$10 Risking 10 to win 90 so 10/90 = 11.1%
$15: 13.6% $20: 17.6% $25: 18.4%
$30: 17.6% $35: 18.4% $40: 19%
$45: 19.5% $50: 20% $55: 20.4%
$60: 20.7% $65: 21% $70: 21.2% $75: 21.4%

Again, what was my equity?

I knew I was gonna lose a significant portion of the time here, but I'm not yet savvy enough to work through all the blocking effects at the table. Although in the moment I didn't realize this (and calculated my pot odds wrong), in retrospect I figured there was at least some of the time the Ace of Diamonds was sitting in a hand with another ace, giving me the pot odds to call, although it wasn't clear what the other two villains were calling with. I was also struggling to figure out how many of us actually were sitting on a flush.

Also if you really like puzzles I think it's possible to work out what happened, and I'll include that the runout had an eight of diamonds and a brick.

What a train wreck...the third villain shoving puts me in this paradox that not only am I beat but also forced to call.

I’m GII on the flop with 75$. Reload after I brick. No need to this about this hand at all


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If you want to know how much equity you have, download Equilab and put some ranges in, it's much better than trying to estimate stuff in your head.

FWIW I put SB on mostly a decent T when he donks, plus less likely some draws and funky 2 pair hands. Other ranges are uncapped IMO but you are sitting on 2 overs and 2NFD in a bloated pot with nothing behind, I would shove and move on with life.

Agree with WereBeer that you should purchase equilab/pokercruncher and play around with ranges if you want to get a feel for your equity. Nobody can do multiway equity calcs in their head.

All these players are shortstacked so they’ll usually have Tx and flush draws and 65. Also 43/44/33. Just give each player all reasonable combos of those and see what your equity is. For simplicity, you can use the same range for each opponent. Then enter your exact hand for the fifth range. Equilab figures it all out.

Pretty sure it’s an easy GII spot.

Oh dang I’m shocked at the responses, I thought for sure they were gonna be telling me that with three shoves in front of me I was up against the nut flush 100% and that I didn’t have the odds.

If you want a starting point, go to propokertools.com

Select “simulations” tab.

Select syntax “ classic” in the dropdown menu

Click the “more hands” button on the left of the main panel (it’s green and underlined).

Enter board “Td 3d 4h”
First hand: “KdJd”

Then for the next 3 hands you can copy past this range as starting point:

“6d4d, 7d5d, 5d4d, 8d6d, 9d7d, 7d6d, 8d7d, 9d8d, 65, 43, 44, 33, AT, KT, QT, JT, Ad4d, Ad2d, Ad5d, Ad6d, Ad7d, Ad8d, Ad9d, AdQd”

You can tinker with the ranges if you think one or more of the players is more/less likely to have certain hand categories. Most live shortstackers are committing with top pair+ and draws, so it should be okay IMO.

This is at least a starting point that’s entirely free. Equilab/pokercruncher/flopzilla are probably better in the long run because they have a GUI interface for selecting hands and so don’t need to enter ranges manually.

TY Chaos and all.

I use equilab all the time, I play so tight it's very difficult for me to assign ranges to other people. For example, here's what I woulda done if I was in villain's spots:

villain 1: bet $20 with Adxd and maybe a straight+flush draw, $50 bet with TT, 44, 33, AA, maybe KK.
villain 2: I only woulda called with AdXd 5d6d, and TT. Maybe AA. I'd probably dump KK and I'd definitely dump QQ or less.
villain 3: All the above but now with better pot odds and one less villain I'd consider 44.

In all three positions I would always be check/folding two diamond combos of 64, 75, 97, 87, 98, as well as 34. (Most of which I'd have folded pre anyway.) In villain 3's spot I might also dump 33.

An easy shove in my opinion. Lots of draws that you dominate, lots of Tx that you are favorite against. Only in really bad shape if someone has nut flush draw AND someone else has 2pair+

I think you are over estimating frequency of nut flush draw here. You will run into it sometimes, but definitely getting a great price here in my opinion with two overs and second best draw.

I don’t think any of the players have AA/KK/QQ those would have raised your $10 preflop bet. JJ also would have shoved from any of the short stack positions. So overpairs are highly discounted.

Part of the skill in ranging is seeing what sort of hands people show up with in these spots and then adjusting your perception of the players.

I think your ranges are too tight, but idk your game.

So what did the players end up tabling?

Third position had A5dd.

Not that surprising that one of the players had the NFD. Would expect that or a smaller FD from at least one player. There’s only so many Tx in the deck.

You didn’t see the other hands, I guess?