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Played about 10 hours with each villian. UTG is tight aggresive. MP2 likes to see flops and plays pretty good post. HJ is a donk. BB is the tightest player on earth. He folded bottem set on a dry board and KQss on a 9s5s2 board to a standard c bet in position lol

I'm sitting with $250. Everyone has $300+

My image is nitty.

Utg raises to 10, MP2 calls, donk calls, I call in the CU with 44, BB defends.

Flop: 954 rainbow $50

Checks to me, I check. After all the checks I felt like no one had anything worth calling on such a dry board. BB has a few 9x but he would probably fold flop if not turn. I also don't think villians would think I bluff in this spot.

Turn: Q $50

BB(King Nit) bets out $25(I'm not going to lie, I thought maybe he flopped a set at this point) UTG calls, MP2 calls, donk folds.

This is where I think I made a mistake. I flat.

I think BB has a strong range here. QK+ sets and maybe J10 sometimes.
UTG could have QJs+, rarely mid pairs. j10s
MP2 I had on a similar range plus 67s

The reason I flatted here is because I felt if I raised, which I would make $100. I would fold out all worst hands except maybe AQ. All these players are solid so I don't think they would peal with j10, 67 or Q10-QK if I raised.

River: 8 $150

BB checks, UTG bets out $45, MP2 calls, I tank and make a crying call. BB folds.

I wanted to fold river so badly, I didn't think there was any 2 pair combos. So all the other sets beat me and j10. Getting 5 to 1 on the river so i called.

So questions are:

Is flatting pre ok?
Flop check good?
Is my justification for flatting turn fine or should I always raise to isolate and build the pot.
Is my river call terrible?

Thanks guys

Welcome to the forum!

Flatting pre here is fine, assuming you play better after the flop in the future.

Flatting flop is bad. There are some draws and you want to build a big pot.

You should generally be playing your sets to make big pots. That means betting and raising, usually on early streets because there are more draws that can call and fewer scare cards that are going to make you wonder whether you're still good and make your opponents wonder whether you outdrew them. That's simplistic, but a decent starting point.

Here, you gave four people a free card on the flop, which has some draws.

Then you gave three people a cheap card on the turn, which has more draws.

Then you didn't know where you were on the river, having significantly underplayed your hand and allowed three V's two chances to outdraw you.

You have to at least call on the river. My gut says raising isn't likely to be profitable here, but maybe I'm all mubsy (like the borogroves).

So, as played, I call.

Pre is fine. Post flop, with 50 in the pot and 240 behind, I'm looking to getting it all in on by the river unless something gross happens. Even King Nit isn't really going to slow me down. Reads always have uncertainties and folding bottom set on a dry board is so weird I think it may be some specific weirdness with that hand rather than a general tendency.

So raise flop, lead turn, shove river would have been my line here.

He cant raise the flop since it checked to him, but he sure can bet it which is what he shouldve done. Checking quads on a board like this is fine, but Im not checking a set.

Checking the flop is a huge mistake. I wouldn't bet much, $20 or $25 would do the trick. But you need to start building a pot now. Your goal when you flop a monster is to get all of your money in the pot while you have the best hand. Checking the flop makes this much harder to do.

Flatting the turn was wrong for many of the same reasons, you still have a monster hand, but the turn just brought more draws. You should be raising enough to deny them the proper odds to chase the straight. I probably make it an even $100 or $125.

To your other questions, flatting pre is fine. You have position and a hand that can flop a monster. Plus with your position you should probably consider betting a lot of flops with this hand if it's checked to you. 3-betting is an option but typically not the best play in LLSNL. Folding is too nitty here.

Calling the river is also fine. You're right to be nervous when someone who has been check/calling along suddenly bets out when the draws come home, but I'm not ready to dump an under-repped bottom set getting a good price on the river.

All of this. ^^^

And welcome to the forum, OP. Nice first post. Easy to read, and all the right info.

I'm not as definite on the missed flop bet as other above... but I really think the turn smooth call was deadly. At this point you are basically ahead of all but 6 or so combos (99 and 55)... the ranges you put your opponents on, that you beat, comprise probably about 40 - 100 combos. So - given you are very likely ahead, and that there are a ton of hands that could be drawing to beat you - this is a must raise situation, IMO.

Thanks for welcoming me and for the feedback everyone.

I agree that I made a big mistake on the turn not raising. I also see that checking flop makes it hard to get my stack in. I guess I wanted someone to catch up but even if they do, most times I'm not going to win a massive pot anyway. Thanks again guys. I'll definitely be posting more hands.