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08-02-2012 , 07:53 PM
Pretty much looking for any info, I already can see a few issues. This was a month ago and I have since improved. Still looking for feedback however. Cheers guys

Hand 1 - Pocket 5's Utg+1

Raise to $10
Co calls. SB, bb, and Utg calls

Flop
J10Qhh
Checked all round

Turn 7d
I bet $15
3 callers

River 6d
Checked

Co shows two pair Q10

Hand 2 - K8o MP

Limped to me. Whole table limps
Flop AA2 dd
Checks

Turn Kd
Call $5 With two one other. (3 in the pot) I'm IP

River 9x
SB bets $5
Utg raises to $20 (I'm putting him on the king)

I shove for $28
He rolls an ace



Hand 3 - Final hand $50 in stack
KK in sb. Limped to me 6 in hand.

I raise to $10.

2 callers

Flop Q67dd
Bet $15 one fold, one call

Turn Xd
Shove for remaining $25
Calls

Shows Q9 no diamonds

River 9

Hand 4 - On the button. Limped around to me 7 handed. I call A5o

Flop: AA2hhd
Checks to me

$6
One caller

Turn kd
$12
Calls

River 6d
Checks to me (seen him slow play a lot of hands, could have me out kicked.)
Check

Shows 92s


Hand 5 - KQhh
In the HJ
Player before raises to $16
(had talked about the table, said only to raise good hands)
Fold
1 caller (BB)
Flop Qxx all clubs
Original raiser bets $17
Bb shoves for $90 ish
Raiser folds, tells table he had AQo


Hand 6 - In the CO
A9ss
Limps around to me.
Raise to $10

SB calls
Utg loose ****** nit who is fond of limping AA and AK reraises to $35
Hardly ever raises.

Put him on KK

Shows kk when I fold




Hand 7 - AJo UTG+2

Limps to me
Raise to $15

4 caller

Flop Qxx two clubs.

to BB $10

Me and Button call
Turn brick

Bb $10
Call call

River brick
Bb checks

Allin for $55

Both fold



Hand 8- AJo BB limped to SB

SB raises to $10 (been opening a huge amount of hands at $10 with nothing)

I reraise to $35

Everyone folds
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08-02-2012 , 09:27 PM
Just put one hand per post,this is all over the place.
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08-02-2012 , 09:43 PM
ya these are all over the place and generally pretty bad.

the k8 is atrocious. just fold that one pre flop
the A5 is bad too. fold that one pre flop as well. And bet the flop bigger.
I don't understand hand 7 at all
Hand 8 - was that in the BB? That was a decent play i suppose - depending how deep you or the rest of the table was.... I try to not play AJ or worse OOP.


hand 1 was bad too - just C/F every street unless you hit a 5
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08-02-2012 , 09:44 PM
I thought I managed to separate it pretty well tbh haha
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08-02-2012 , 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djevans
ya these are all over the place and generally pretty bad.

the k8 is atrocious. just fold that one pre flop
the A5 is bad too. fold that one pre flop as well. And bet the flop bigger.
I don't understand hand 7 at all
Hand 8 - was that in the BB? That was a decent play i suppose - depending how deep you or the rest of the table was.... I try to not play AJ or worse OOP.


hand 1 was bad too - just C/F every street unless you hit a 5
Yeah I can see a huge amount of errors myself and have since improved an absolute **** tonne.

Mainly I just wanted errors to be made light of so I could see if my own analysis was on target.
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08-02-2012 , 09:57 PM
Know what ur gonna do before everything develops. Plan ahead. Im learning poker also, and thats the best general advice out there.
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08-02-2012 , 11:21 PM
got half way through, stopped reading. Shorten your post...
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08-02-2012 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stringdaddy27
got half way through, stopped reading. Shorten your post...
Maybe next time you'll read the thread title ey bud
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08-03-2012 , 12:04 AM
Gladly would read 8 threads, paco. But this is torture, and I didn't even read it.
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08-03-2012 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
Gladly would read 8 threads, paco. But this is torture, and I didn't even read it.
Yeah I know man. Haha I guess the good thing about me seeing this is how embarassed I am about how I played 90% of these hands.

As I posted I was like "eww"
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08-03-2012 , 04:26 AM
[QUOTE=oNste;34084221]Pretty much looking for any info, I already can see a few issues. This was a month ago and I have since improved. Still looking for feedback however. Cheers guys

Hand 1 - Pocket 5's Utg+1

Raise to $10
Co calls. SB, bb, and Utg calls

Flop
J10Qhh
Checked all round

Turn 7d
I bet $15
3 callers

River 6d
Checked

Co shows two pair Q10

1) In this hand you shouldn't be considering playing 55's up front like this. Based on game conditions you can limp if it's passive which most live games are and l/c in order to set mine if its raised after you. Your initial raise to 10 is way to much in a 1/2 game limiting the range of those calling you based on your stack (which you failed to include in all your posts) to any pocket pair the majority of which beat you,and high cards (suited and connected). The flop basically hits all your callers combined ranges. The fact that they all check doesn't really mean anything 'cause of that fact. When you lead out on the turn you basically turn your hand into a bluff representing a slowplayed straight that was afraid of the flush draw. On the river you could have taken it down with a follow on bet after it bricks also. After you check the CO figures pots big enough and just calls showing you two pair explaining why he never re-raised with it.

Hand 2 - K8o MP

Limped to me. Whole table limps
Flop AA2 dd
Checks

Turn Kd
Call $5 With two one other. (3 in the pot) I'm IP

River 9x
SB bets $5
Utg raises to $20 (I'm putting him on the king)

I shove for $28
He rolls an ace

2) On flops like this if someone leads out they usually paired the non paired card (2) have overs or are straight bluffing and when someone calls (they usually have the trip card or a higher pair than the board and want to see what happens on the turn. Should be an insta-fold after the bet and call when it gets to you.

Hand 3 - Final hand $50 in stack
KK in sb. Limped to me 6 in hand.

I raise to $10.

2 callers

Flop Q67dd
Bet $15 one fold, one call

Turn Xd
Shove for remaining $25
Calls

Shows Q9 no diamonds

River 9

3) This hand everything is fine you just got unlucky. Only question is how much do you normally raise? Earlier hand with the 55's you said 10 and in a 1/2 game thats a lot; standard is usually 2-4 big blinds.

Hand 4 - On the button. Limped around to me 7 handed. I call A5o

Flop: AA2hhd
Checks to me

$6
One caller

Turn kd
$12
Calls

River 6d
Checks to me (seen him slow play a lot of hands, could have me out kicked.)
Check

Shows 92s

4) I think limping on the button here is fine. You hit a big flop and lead out. Your image is probably why you picked up a caller and the fact that he caught some of the flop. You should have checked this turn to induce a bluff and set up a river value bet....but you lead out again he called. Still should have bet the river for some value ( I usually go with an easily callable amount like 25 percent of the pot; another ace isn't going to raise you especially since there wasn't a preflop raise and it will create enough doubt that you get called by worse a majority of the time).

Hand 5 - KQhh
In the HJ
Player before raises to $16
(had talked about the table, said only to raise good hands)
Fold
1 caller (BB)
Flop Qxx all clubs
Original raiser bets $17
Bb shoves for $90 ish
Raiser folds, tells table he had AQo

5) NH

Hand 6 - In the CO
A9ss
Limps around to me.
Raise to $10

SB calls
Utg loose ****** nit who is fond of limping AA and AK reraises to $35
Hardly ever raises.

Put him on KK

Shows kk when I fold

6) AMAZING READ!!! lol regardless of what people say at the table you should work on putting people on a range of hands as opposed to just a hand. the fact of the matter is that with a raise to 16 from utg you almost always have something like QQ's plus or A/Ks, maybe A/Qs so nice fold. However, the guy made the mistake of pricing you out by narrowing his own range so much. This is even more evident in hand number 5 where he very easily could have priced you in with a smaller raise and gotten potentially your whole stack.

Last edited by Ace5150; 08-03-2012 at 04:31 AM.
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08-03-2012 , 04:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oNste
Pretty much looking for any info, I already can see a few issues. This was a month ago and I have since improved. Still looking for feedback however. Cheers guys

Hand 1 - Pocket 5's Utg+1

Raise to $10
Co calls. SB, bb, and Utg calls

Flop
J10Qhh
Checked all round

Turn 7d
I bet $15
3 callers

River 6d
Checked

Co shows two pair Q10

1) In this hand you shouldn't be considering playing 55's up front like this. Based on game conditions you can limp if it's passive which most live games are and l/c in order to set mine if its raised after you. Your initial raise to 10 is way to much in a 1/2 game limiting the range of those calling you based on your stack (which you failed to include in all your posts) to any pocket pair the majority of which beat you,and high cards (suited and connected). The flop basically hits all your callers combined ranges. The fact that they all check doesn't really mean anything 'cause of that fact. When you lead out on the turn you basically turn your hand into a bluff representing a slowplayed straight that was afraid of the flush draw. On the river you could have taken it down with a follow on bet after it bricks also. After you check the CO figures pots big enough and just calls showing you two pair explaining why he never re-raised with it.

Hand 2 - K8o MP

Limped to me. Whole table limps
Flop AA2 dd
Checks

Turn Kd
Call $5 With two one other. (3 in the pot) I'm IP

River 9x
SB bets $5
Utg raises to $20 (I'm putting him on the king)

I shove for $28
He rolls an ace

2) On flops like this if someone leads out they usually paired the non paired card (2) have overs or are straight bluffing and when someone calls (they usually have the trip card or a higher pair than the board and want to see what happens on the turn. Should be an insta-fold after the bet and call when it gets to you.

Hand 3 - Final hand $50 in stack
KK in sb. Limped to me 6 in hand.

I raise to $10.

2 callers

Flop Q67dd
Bet $15 one fold, one call

Turn Xd
Shove for remaining $25
Calls

Shows Q9 no diamonds

River 9

3) This hand everything is fine you just got unlucky. Only question is how much do you normally raise? Earlier hand with the 55's you said 10 and in a 1/2 game thats a lot; standard is usually 2-4 big blinds.

Hand 4 - On the button. Limped around to me 7 handed. I call A5o

Flop: AA2hhd
Checks to me

$6
One caller

Turn kd
$12
Calls

River 6d
Checks to me (seen him slow play a lot of hands, could have me out kicked.)
Check

Shows 92s

4) I think limping on the button here is fine. You hit a big flop and lead out. Your image is probably why you picked up a caller and the fact that he caught some of the flop. You should have checked this turn to induce a bluff and set up a river value bet....but you lead out again he called. Still should have bet the river for some value ( I usually go with an easily callable amount like 25 percent of the pot; another ace isn't going to raise you especially since there wasn't a preflop raise and it will create enough doubt that you get called by worse a majority of the time).

Hand 5 - KQhh
In the HJ
Player before raises to $16
(had talked about the table, said only to raise good hands)
Fold
1 caller (BB)
Flop Qxx all clubs
Original raiser bets $17
Bb shoves for $90 ish
Raiser folds, tells table he had AQo

5) NH

Hand 6 - In the CO
A9ss
Limps around to me.
Raise to $10

SB calls
Utg loose ****** nit who is fond of limping AA and AK reraises to $35
Hardly ever raises.

Put him on KK

Shows kk when I fold

6) AMAZING READ!!! lol regardless of what people say at the table you should work on putting people on a range of hands as opposed to just a hand. the fact of the matter is that with a raise to 16 from utg you almost always have something like QQ's plus or A/Ks, maybe A/Qs so nice fold. However, the guy made the mistake of pricing you out by narrowing his own range so much. This is even more evident in hand number 5 where he very easily could have priced you in with a smaller raise and gotten potentially your whole stack.
Thank you very much for that bro.

Actually had a few "ahh" moments, I liked how you reviewed it in such depth. Do you have Skype? You would be an invaluable Skype partner.
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08-03-2012 , 03:25 PM
Hand1: Super easy overlimp preflop, especially since our raise didn't thin the field at all, which means all we're doing is setmining anyways (which we're now doing for a quite expensive $10 instead of a very cheap $2, plus we also gave donks a chance to fold hands they could have stacked off on had we let them see a flop and we hit). Putting any money into the pot postflop on this board in a 5way pot is lighting it on fire; check/fold every street.

Hand2: Super easy fold preflop. Our hand is crap and plays horribly multiway plus we're in bad position, plus it looks like we're shortstacked. With a bet and a call on the turn, this is a super easy fold; at the very least one of these guys has a better K, if not an A, if not a flush. Lol at your river read; again, super easy fold. This is an extremely poorly played hand.

Hand3: I'd normally say top up pre preflop if you're a good player (which you're not). I'd raise more preflop so that I could shove pretty much all flops (perhaps A high very multiway flops would be an exception). As played, with only just slightly more than a PSB left on a drawy board vs two opponents, I just shove the flop. If you're playing shortstacked, the goal is to get in as many chips as possible over as few streets as possible with TP type hands so that speculative hands (small pocket pairs, suited connectors, etc.) don't have any advantage.

Hand4: Even though I'm all for playing junk on the button, A5o is a bit too junky for me and can be tricky to play in the hands of a poor player (bad RIO); I fold preflop. Even though board is drawy, in this eleventeen way pot there's a decent chance other A is out there, so I would rather let a street check thru and almost bluffcatch here (probably betting the turn if checked thru again). As played, it really depends if villain is a payoff station monkey who think we could be the ones on the busted draw; it also really depends on where he called the flop bet (if he called with lottsa other people still to act after him, this really indicates an A or a busted flush draw more than it does an underpair that we could get value from).

Hand5: Confusing HH, but I fold to the preflop raise unless this is going to go very multiway. Once we call the preflop bet I guess we can't fold to the original bet; I'd consider calling the shortstackish shove depending on if villain can do this with a flush draw.

Hand6: Either raise more to thin the field or (my preference) just overlimp and nutflush / trips / two pair mine. Easy fold to the limp/raise.

Hand7: At loose tables, I think we'd just be better off folding AJo in EP. Even though flop bet is ******edly small, we have nothing with others left to act behind us, so easy fold. Ditto turn. I have no idea how a $55 bet into a $135 pot got two players to fold the river; we lucked out, plain and simple.

Hand8: Given reads, I don't hate this play, although I probably would have made it slightly more just to absolutely not encourage a multiway pot. If table is super loose, I might just fold preflop and move on.

Overall, some pretty horrible play, imo. But welcome to the forums! Next time, just post one hand per thread.

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08-03-2012 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Hand1: Super easy overlimp preflop, especially since our raise didn't thin the field at all, which means all we're doing is setmining anyways (which we're now doing for a quite expensive $10 instead of a very cheap $2, plus we also gave donks a chance to fold hands they could have stacked off on had we let them see a flop and we hit). Putting any money into the pot postflop on this board in a 5way pot is lighting it on fire; check/fold every street.

Hand2: Super easy fold preflop. Our hand is crap and plays horribly multiway plus we're in bad position, plus it looks like we're shortstacked. With a bet and a call on the turn, this is a super easy fold; at the very least one of these guys has a better K, if not an A, if not a flush. Lol at your river read; again, super easy fold. This is an extremely poorly played hand.

Hand3: I'd normally say top up pre preflop if you're a good player (which you're not). I'd raise more preflop so that I could shove pretty much all flops (perhaps A high very multiway flops would be an exception). As played, with only just slightly more than a PSB left on a drawy board vs two opponents, I just shove the flop. If you're playing shortstacked, the goal is to get in as many chips as possible over as few streets as possible with TP type hands so that speculative hands (small pocket pairs, suited connectors, etc.) don't have any advantage.

Hand4: Even though I'm all for playing junk on the button, A5o is a bit too junky for me and can be tricky to play in the hands of a poor player (bad RIO); I fold preflop. Even though board is drawy, in this eleventeen way pot there's a decent chance other A is out there, so I would rather let a street check thru and almost bluffcatch here (probably betting the turn if checked thru again). As played, it really depends if villain is a payoff station monkey who think we could be the ones on the busted draw; it also really depends on where he called the flop bet (if he called with lottsa other people still to act after him, this really indicates an A or a busted flush draw more than it does an underpair that we could get value from).

Hand5: Confusing HH, but I fold to the preflop raise unless this is going to go very multiway. Once we call the preflop bet I guess we can't fold to the original bet; I'd consider calling the shortstackish shove depending on if villain can do this with a flush draw.

Hand6: Either raise more to thin the field or (my preference) just overlimp and nutflush / trips / two pair mine. Easy fold to the limp/raise.

Hand7: At loose tables, I think we'd just be better off folding AJo in EP. Even though flop bet is ******edly small, we have nothing with others left to act behind us, so easy fold. Ditto turn. I have no idea how a $55 bet into a $135 pot got two players to fold the river; we lucked out, plain and simple.

Hand8: Given reads, I don't hate this play, although I probably would have made it slightly more just to absolutely not encourage a multiway pot. If table is super loose, I might just fold preflop and move on.

Overall, some pretty horrible play, imo. But welcome to the forums! Next time, just post one hand per thread.

Giamsoboredatworktoday,Ican'tbelieveIrespondedtoal loftheseG
Haha dude I know it's horrible play! I played again last night and did really well. I've improved a lot since these hands, I figured a bit of reinforcement of how badly I played these hands would be a catalyst to play better.

And play better I did!

Cheers for the reply mate
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