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facing a river shove, top two. facing a river shove, top two.

08-02-2010 , 07:46 PM
0.5-1 NL home game, 7 handed.

generly the game level is very high. me and villain know each other very well, played alot together. villain is a succesfull online and live player, a thinking player, playing kind of tight, but can make moves once in a while. villain 2 is an ok player, thinks im bluffing alot, although i was playing kind of tight postflop.

hero stack is 155, villain covers.

hero is dealt AK MP. UTG+1 and UTG+2 limp, hero raise to 7, villain 2 (CO) calls, villain call (BTN).

flop: (pot ~ 25) A K 8. kind of of a drawless board. i check, inorder to check raise villain 2 (a raise he will probably pay with a good ace or maybe even a K). CO and BTN check.
** i know some of u thing i should bet the flop, but i know i can get villain2 stack if he hit it good.

turn 3 . i bet the pot (25), to make my hand look like a bluff, CO fold villain calls. i put him on an ace, maybe even two pair. theres also a chance of a flush draw or a set of 3, but less likely (i think he will bet there).

river J (pot is 75). i bet 40 to get value from AQ AJ A3 ,but villain goes all in!!!
i need to pay another 80 , but its hard to find a hand i can win.. villain wont go all in with AJ or A3. im getting great odds, but i cant find a hand i can beat.
anyway, i figured out the only hand that make sense is a set of 3 o a big draw that got there like QT and decided to fold.
do u make the call here? would u play turn/river diffrently?!? thanks

Last edited by ranil; 08-02-2010 at 07:58 PM.
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08-02-2010 , 07:58 PM
You checked the flop with a plan and then executed the plan and folded.

Big mistake.

It looks like you have QQ or 99 or TT or KT suited that did not make a flush.

When you disguise your hand to confuse the opponent and then his "inferior" tew pair thinks it is good and he value raises, you need to call.

If he is a thinking player as you describe, he needs to raise the turn while you have hope of improving if he hit a set or a straight.

Bet the flop and win the hand. As played, call.
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08-03-2010 , 09:41 AM
I snap call this pretty quickly. You're turn and river bet sizing is fine. By checking the flop you disguised the strength of your hand and there's not much that beats you...it's hard to put the villian on a set or q10 here when he flat calls your pot sized bet on the turn. qs10s I guess is a possibility but you only need to call $80 to win $195 here. Folding hands like this will make you pretty exploitable...call and be happy
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08-03-2010 , 01:24 PM
I'm confused...

the turn and the river are both veritable blanks. You have a monster hand, position and control. You properly have disguised the strength of your hand and got an extra bet in and were called on the turn. This is everything you planned for and wanted.

Then a non-spade J hits the river. This has to be considered a blank. The likelihood of a villain holding Q/10 is extremely remote. If opponent has a set, well so be it... gg... next hand. Mostly likely he has A/J or a weaker two-pair. Also, if I'm reading this right, you have to only call $80 to win a pot of $235? Snap call.
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08-03-2010 , 02:47 PM
Your post was a gem to read. lots of character.

But you need to call the river. You tricked your opponent into thinking you were weak. And then when he acted on it and fell for it, you abandoned your trap.

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