Ok so:

Villain A SB (300£) - (Decent player hasnt done too much out of the ordinary)
Villain B BB (160£) - (Super fish open raising any two to 15-20 at a time hes known as one of the casinos main contributors)
Hero BTN (210£) - (My image so far is super nit ive literally folded 95% of my hands for the last 2 hrs based on the fact im running pretty card dead and cant find a spot vs this aggro fish to get it in)


(Pre) 5 folds

Hero BTN - QhQd Raise 6£ (The aggro fish is calling any raise so is this good?)
Villain A SB - Calls
Villain B BB - Calls

(18£)(Flop) 7h8c9d

SB- Bet 9£
BB- Bet 50£ (wtf?)
Hero ?


I tank for a while and my thoughts are that im good vs the fish even though he is probably drawing drawing but i think SB probably has 1 pair and the draw too?

One thing i note about BB is that hell bet/chase any draw.... he openly shows drawing back door flushes and hitting them/ Gut shots etc etc

If SB wasnt involved id probs pop it up and try and get it in i think but as played what should my action be?

TY

How can you do anything other than call?

There is no way in the world I fold to the BB. I never ever EVER fold against fish-maniacs whenever I have top pair or better no matter what the board looks like.

Seriously, these players depend on thinking players to fold and so they bet, raise, and shove with such a ridiculous range of hands and draws. You are ahead of him majority of time.

I'd expect him to have all manner of Tx and 6x hands.

I'd be more worried about the SB.

Call and reevaluate turn (and hope SB folds).

I be willing to shove all turns that are not a J, T, 9, 6, or 5.

Lastly, if SB calls, i'd probably be looking at folding most turns.

Thanks for the reply i did exactly what you said SB folds the turn comes a 6 and fishy insta shuvs :@

So annoying becuase QQ was one of the hands i was waiting for to get it in with this maniac but nvm.

He ended up showing A so im guessing AT or sumthing maybe A5 becuase he really is that bad.

Thanks for the replys

so sick, i hate when this scenario happens.

Had fish been 'shoving' all his made draws?

If so, then ya, folding that turn is the right play.

But I would think that if villain had A6, he'd shove as well on that scary turn. Actually, from that standpoint, you'd have enough equity to call him and turn QQ into a bluff catcher.

hmmm.... The more I think about it, the more i think a call may be the correct play.

I think in order for this to be mathematically correct, villain would have to bluff in this spot at least 33%. So if villain is capable of bluffing here 1/3 the time then call.

And it sounds like to me this is definitely that kinda villain.

Anyways, folding is definitely not terrible and probably the correct play, especially if villain has been shoving all his made draws.

And in all honesty, fish that chase like this almost always shove their made draws. The thought of value betting never crosses their minds