Blinds are 2/5 7 handed Button straddle 10 1.2k effective

V1:EP Raise to 45 (player was on tilt from losing a couple big hands consecutively raising and calling trash hands)
Hero: LJ AJo calls
V2:Button calls
Flop:QQ3dd Everyone checks
Turn:Ad V1 checks Hero bets 55 V2 calls V1 folds
River:6h Hero bets 85 V2 raises to 285

Hero?

Fold. Villain is screaming at you that he has at least a Q and you have zero evidence to the contrary because you seem to have no reads. Additionally, the river lead was a terrible idea due to RIO.

I would fold and expect to see a Q very often here

Fold pre....or 3bet.

As played fold the riv

When a tilted/aggro player starts checking twice, he's probably in trap mode or could even have AK. But even in general, players aren't bluffing rivers like that.

fold pre
as played easy fold
if he hero bluffed you then good for him
you gave no reads on button
if you have none then even more reason to fold pre

Fold or 3bet pre. I 3bet vs. a tilted player.

Definitely folding river for obvious reasons -- already stated.

You gave no reads on BTN.

Doubt most players are sneaky enough to check back a Q on the flop. So I think it’s a flush or air. With the A diamonds and Q diamonds out, he really shouldn’t have many flushes.

I think your small bets could have induced a bluff raise. If you think this guy has any ability to bluff, then call. Else fold. Idk what to tell you.

Without reads I probably shrug and call, expecting to see KJo with a diamond often enough to justify the call.

If there’s ever a spot where a LLSNL player will bluff rivers its this spot where you bet super small on two streets with an obviously capped range. If we’re not calling here when it’s a prime bluffing spot, are we just never bluff catching rivers period? (I realize rivers are underbluffed by population).

By the way, I dislike the small river bet precisely because it often puts you in this very awkward spot, and I think it’s pretty hard to get called by worse too, unless V is super unaware. Check/evaluate is better IMO.

I usually agree with your posts but I strongly disagree with both points here at ssnl.

3b or fold pre. Vs tilting fish I would 3b near 100%

Agree about 3B or fold pre. Like 3b against tilting fish too.

I think we also lose to 33 and 66 (with diamond).

You disagree that most players would bet a Q on the flop on the BTN after PFR checks?

I think there are some players who will always bet a Q on the flop. Perhaps most players in my pool fall in that category. I’m not claiming anything about your pool nor OPs pool.

I think most players mix, leaning towards a bet with FD present. However there is a fairly common player type at low stakes that will (almost?) never bet trips here. The same player type can also have a lot of suited trash

Insta fold, unless we have any really strong reads. Big River raises nearly always a very strong hand. We have top pair. We are beat.

I would think that same player type would also not usually raise river with naked trips with a flush on board, but I’m not sure if we’re thinking of the same stereotype.

I sorta think most players at my LLSNL games are pretty bad at mixing their play and usually take the same line with a given hand class every time.

Anyway, I do suggest usually folding to big river raises because they’re often the nuts. I can see however calling this spot with reads. Was it an insta-raise or did Villain ponder his options? Insta-raise on paired board with FD present is almost always boat or air, and I’d be more inclined to call in that spot (our opponent is gonna be pretty wide given how small our turn bet was, so not hard to find bluffs — any KT,JT,KJ with a diamond).

3bet pre (since the dude is tilted and playing trash), c/c most reasonable bets river

Fold pre ainec, calling here is going to lose a lot of money in the long run. I prefer 3 betting to calling, but seriously this is just a fold. I don't have a calling range in general from LJ.

I would go half pot on the turn.

Just fold the river. This is going to be a bluff so infrequently, this is another spot that if we get in the habit of calling we'll just be burning money in the long run.

If you're hoping to take advantage of tilt, it's probably not going to work out facing a line like this bc this ain't a line a tilting player takes, like ever.

Pre is meh. You kind of got stuck - might be a nice 3b, might be a nice fold, might be a nice call. There is merit to each as an exploit bc of the tilting player and AJ has enough high card value if his range is truly that wide now via tilt.

AP turn is a check riv is a fold. The reason for calling is tilt, but again, it's not a tilted line - and if you're wrong and he has <AJ (aka you fold and he shows you air) well, you're still in a great spot to access his cash later on in the game in more sure-footed spots. Not that you have to 'wait' like some nitfish, but still you'd like to have more certainty --- that certainty might come in the form of hands far worse relatively than top pair too, but board, line, texture, your hand are factors that help determine these better 'spots'. (aka you find a great bottom pair/high card calldown opportunity - worse relative hand but better spot).

Tilted player check/folded turn. Main Villain is on the button and we have no reads on them.

If you’re going to check/call river, then you should also bet/call after you take this 1/3 sizing. The 1/3 sizing increases the opponents bluffing frequency relative to what it would have been if you had checked. Your opponent will take a hand like KJo, that they would have checked back facing a check (because K-hi has showdown value), and turn it into a bluff facing a weak river bet.

Preflop very bad. If he’s tilted and raising wide, we have a very profitable 3 bet to 140. Now you get to play the entire hand OOP and in the worst relative position given where bets are mathematically most likely to originate. Fold is also an option if he isn’t that loose. Call is by far the worst of the three, I don’t see how you intend to win money with this play.

You lose. Fold to the raise. What suit is your Jack?

Three bet pre is mandatory given the tilted player description, it doesn't even have to be that big, we're not looking for a fold lets just give the other players a reason to get out of the way and we take this heads up in position. It looks like you would be 3!ing a utg open when your next to act, that's strong enough that you could probably go as small as $110.

As played never even considering calling unless you hold the J

I fold pre, x turn, I would bet river but then I snap fold to the raise.

Leading river is great but, like most river bets at llsnl, its a b/f. He has at least a queen. Flushes and AQ play this way a ton too. Snap fold

OP can we get results for this hand? Did you ever find out what villain had?