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Do tourists have balls? 5/10 flop bottom set, get CR overbet on AT3 2 heart board. Do tourists have balls? 5/10 flop bottom set, get CR overbet on AT3 2 heart board.

09-11-2011 , 07:51 PM
5/10 Live

$1200 effective stacks.

3 limpers and I overlimp with 33 in the hijack.

7 players limp to see a flop of AT3 2 hearts. (I have no heart)

MP good player bets $30.

I raise to $85.

BB check re-raises both of us to $385.

MP folds.

BB has about $800 back, I cover...

I think ...

[ ] This is an insta-shove... but why is he doing this? ... He's a tourist.

[ ] Most tourists don't have the balls to CR a bet and a raise for a huge amount bigger than pot ...
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09-11-2011 , 07:59 PM
Uhhhh... am I missing something? Get it in you're only beat by TT. This post isn't worth discussing IMO
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09-11-2011 , 08:07 PM
Quote:
Uhhhh... am I missing something?
This.

Even if you give him TT, discount ALL draws, and don't even put T3 in his range (which he should have some % being in the BB), you obv have way enough equity to get it in.

Board: Ah Th 3s

Hand 0: 48.744% { 33 }
Hand 1: 51.256% { TT, ATs, A3s, ATo, A3o }
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09-12-2011 , 09:26 AM
They might but you most certainly dont if you're questioning this spot.
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09-12-2011 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by derick
(I have no heart)
.

Get it in
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09-12-2011 , 11:40 AM
get it in...

...there are so many combos of hands that this villain can have (that u beat)
(AT,A3,T3,KJhh,KQhh,42hh,54hh and a ton of P+FD hands)

a set of tens (or aces) aren't even probable (but I assume u stacked off and that's what he showed up with.)

tough break/easy shove
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09-13-2011 , 04:28 AM
Yawn. Get it in. Be happy about geting it in. Fist pump if you're in the mood when he shows you A10. Rebuy if he shows you 1010 or just bink a 3 NBD.
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09-13-2011 , 10:51 AM
I actually consider calling here, but I desperately want a better villain descrip.

Middle age rec players are c/r with AK/AQ/AJ here and likely folding to a ship, while at the same time, they are unlikely to pound it with the combo draw. Young-wannabe-ballers are pounding every combo draw, looking to get the stack in. Also, this is assuming that the A is NOT the heart.

If you call, and a blank comes on the turn, you have a much better stack commitment than a ship here, assuming villain is a rec player. I've just had too many rec players backraise/fold or checkraise/fold to me in similar spots, because they were backraising/checkraising TPGK or TPTK.

Advice if he's a young baller type, stick it in. If he's older, smooth. If the A is not a heart, ship it all in, because AK/AQ/AJ hh is a ship hand for almost all playertypes.
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09-13-2011 , 12:06 PM
weird spot w/o a read
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09-14-2011 , 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorgon6
super easy/standard/don't even consider anything else besides getting it in spot w/o seeing his cards
fyp

Also, since the beginning of time, tourists' balls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grinders' balls.

Also, also, "tourist" is pretty outdated- everyone knows how to play poker now and everyone loves a combo draw for 120 bigs these days.

Also, also, also, I'm positive villain had TT here.
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09-14-2011 , 09:03 PM
Of course he did. Post wouldn't have been made if big balls mctourist had zee T3 zee T3
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09-14-2011 , 10:08 PM
double fist pump with two hands or 3 continuous fist pumps with one?
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09-14-2011 , 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rakes
double fist pump with two hands or 3 continuous fist pumps with one?
I like a triple double with pelvis thrusts personally. Nadal did something similar to this after a big point in the US Open and I immediately thought, "Damn, that was solid."
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09-15-2011 , 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGAF
fyp

Also, since the beginning of time, tourists' balls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grinders' balls.

Also, also, "tourist" is pretty outdated- everyone knows how to play poker now and everyone loves a combo draw for 120 bigs these days.

Also, also, also, I'm positive villain had TT here.

My read was that he had TT or even AA

... but I didn't have the balls to fold bottom set.


Good players seem to fold bottom set all the time.

But I can't.

Not live anyways.

I can't remember the last set I folded in a situation like this.

I should have given more reads on the tourist.

Tourist has not been very aggressive. This is the first time he's done anything aggressive at the table. I've been at the table for about an hour. He's about 40, overweight.

Everything about my read told me that he's got TT.

I just can't see a 40 year old fat tourist making a big check raise of two people with something that can't beat bottom set.

Internet kids do it all the time... but live tourists?
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09-15-2011 , 10:40 PM
An hour is not enough time to get a solid read. There is no way the BB has AA in a 7 way limped pot. He has one hand that beats you out of a range that also consists of 2 pairs and draws. If you're gona limp with 33, hit your set and not get it in than just stop playing 33. Sorry that he had TT but stop being results oriented.
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09-15-2011 , 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by firefoxmaz11
They might but you most certainly dont if you're questioning this spot.



this is it.
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09-16-2011 , 12:03 AM
Chubby haters itt
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09-16-2011 , 02:13 PM
IMO "tourist" has TT/AA maybe AT/A3. I've seen bad players (loose passive/tight passive) limp AA and even check back the flop w a set LOL. If "Tourist has not been very aggressive. This is the first time he's done anything aggressive at the table. I've been at the table for about an hour. He's about 40, overweight." then he's always showing up with the nut nuts.
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