Blinds 2/2 (Home private game)

LJ opens to 8, CO 3bets to 30.
(CO player had been 3 betting LJ player at a higher frequency)

I open Ac Ad on the BTN and 4 bet to 110.

Both CO and I were deep at around 2.4k effective stacks.

Flop Qh Js 2d. (Pot: 222)
I felt like I had to pot control especially when we were so deep and AA could have 2 streets of value.

Turn 4s bringing in a back door flush draw possibilities. CO lead for 160 and I flatted

River As (Pot: 552)
CO bets 450.

I’m not used to 1000++ BB games and I’ve been trying to learn more. Do I simply call here or could I shove for value?


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There's no way a shove gets called by worse more often that it gets called by better, easy call
Also no strat in BVB, show results of you shoving into Ts3s and we're happy

Guess you were right that I misread his hands only to strong range of JJ++ hands which led me to over valued my hand.


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How can you overplay AA? It's the best preflop hand. If you lose, you got drawn out on, nothing you can do. I'm on camp All in.

Call river without reads, I don't love his sizing though.

I am assuming this guy can 3bet pre as wide as KTs + suited connenctors. So 4 combos of KTs, plus 6ish combos of flushes with KQ/QT/T9/98/87/76/65. You lose to around 10 combos. The hands you beat that may call a raise are QQ/JJ (6 combos). Given 10 is larger than 6, I think you have a square call.

Bet the flop next time, and as played all you can do is call. KT that got a free card otf and back door flushes although are possible they're not the majority of his range, you still beat a lot including bluffs which he should also have or he's betting AQ for value. You're hand is under repped (not over played).

Not sure why you don't bet flop and/or raise turn, especially considering he checked flop?

Call river -- zero reason to raise now.

Your 4bet is probably so obvious to being nutted unless you've been 4betting him a fair amount which I doubt. Anyways I would fire this flop - there's a lot of value to be had and checking narrows your range. The river is just a call - he's betting big on a river that should be very good for you, and he might be good enough to fold say QQ here to a jam.

I know you don't want to let anyone get away, but this deep you can probably 4bet even larger and still get called. Not much bigger though, perhaps 4x-4.5x.

I see where you are coming from on the flop but you can still bet this very small.

River is a little awkward. I like a raise-fold but even with just a minclick you'll be setting yourself tempting odds. Does KTo call preflop OOP to a nearly-4x-4bet? Probably not, at least not with full frequency. Are there some flushes? Yeah, but As and Js are out there. Will you kick yourself if you just call and get shown QQ/JJ/AQ/AJ/QJ? Yes you will. If you have the discipline to fold to a jam then I think you can make this 900-1000.

V interesting spot tho

So, I think the key takeaway from this.......when you're in position and for whatever reason (right or wrong, doesn't matter) you think you can only get 2 streets of value in a similar spot....

Take a bet, check, bet or a bet, bet, check line.


This board is good for our range (it's also good for their calling range). But when we check IP here, we are at a 100% frequency giving a free card to two opponents and they both see turn at 100% frequency. That's not good.

We can either take this pot down, or get heads up to turn.



As played on river, had he bet smaller......we could consider a raise. When he bets big on an A river into a 4bet range......it's just a call.

Pretty easy $75 on flop imo, esp if you've been 4betting him as much as you should be (considering stack sizes and how he's playing). When you consider the types of hands we'll be cold 4betting here, this is prob a range bet on flop.

Pretty easy call on river imo, your hand is underrepped and you beat a portion of his value range, but you lose to too many hands to consider squeezing in a value raise.

You got a really good turn card. There's so many bad cards that could have come. You've got to bet the flop.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Villian showed Ts9s. His 4bet calling range was even wider than expected and I value owned myself at the end. Definitely a lesson to learn when playing super deep.


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