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Originally Posted by HomelessPizza
Not true, we have an OESF draw.
And while its true we may get over-flushed here, if we make our flush on say a 3 turn, are we really going to fold getting such a good price and still having outs if we are over-flushed? This is a spot where it helps to not be super deep, so that's why I advocate shoving flop.
Do we know which flop cards are diamonds? I still wouldn't call this an OESF draw. We may need runner runner to make the SF. And we have the low end of the SD. Not much of a combo if you ask me.
AP, I think the pre sizing is the worst. If you can drive out most of the junk hands with a strong pre bet then maybe this line can be more successful. But I also agree that the flop raise is usually strong here too, making the decision to play for stacks with weak draws seems long term unprofitable.
I've suffered from this syndrome before as well (although not lately). Representing a big hand because you've been card dead forever. But if they can put you on AA and still call, your perceived strength doesn't matter much, in fact it may have worked against you on this board as they dont assume you waited that long to get spicy with JT.