$2/$5 on a Saturday afternoon at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut.

Hero is a 32yo white guy. This is only my second time ever playing 2/5 in this room, though I am a regular at 1/2. I don't believe I've ever played with anyone at this table though, so it's not super relevant. I should have a solid and maybe tight image, but I am also the youngest guy at the table which I think affects how I am perceived. I have $550 and everyone at the table covers me, including Villain.

Villain is a middle-aged white guy. He doubled up in an absurd boat-over-boat spot in the first hand dealt at this table where he called a huge 3bet with JJ and stacked the 3bettor's 55 on J757x. He is playing solid ABC poker from what I can tell, though he is likely playing too loose and too passive in many spots.

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UTG limps. Villain raises to $20 from EP. I 3bet BTN to $75 with AsAc. Folds to V who calls.

Flop: QsTh4c (Pot: $155)

Villain checks. I bet $75. Villain calls.

Turn: QsTh4c Ks (Pot: $305)

Villain checks. I jam $400.

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My thought process on the flop in this hand was that I was going to make this a two street hand, betting half pot on the flop instead of a downbet and then jamming turn. I think that's how I would want to play a bluff here, and it's easy for my opponents to put me on AK when I 3bet pre and then blast off on this board. On the flop, I figured Villain had a good amount of Qx that would call down.

The turn is actually one of the worst cards in the deck though, because now Villain's hands like KQ, KTs, and AJ beat me, and hands like AQ, QJ, and JJ are much less likely to call off. In game, I decided that I was committed to my hand and decided to stick to the original plan and overbet jam the turn. I figured Villain would still have hands like KJs and many combos of AK which would call off.

In hindsight, I wonder if I misplayed this spot? Do enough worse hands call when I jam this turn for 1.3x pot?

I would have checked the turn as you are firmly in WA/WB territory.

Why would villain call a turn jam with a hand worse than AK if he puts you on AK when you c-bet the flop? You’re just allowing him to play perfectly and he’s thinking to himself “thanks for overbet shoving the turn and letting me off the hook dude.”

Pre and flop are fine. Turn is a check.

Having the As is what makes the jam worse I think.

I think overall checking is probably better.

Turn jam isn’t great.

I agree that having the As is bad here. It’s really hard to come up with flush draw combos that Villain can have when I hold the As. Basically just JTss and maybe T9ss.

Appreciate the feedback on this hand thus far. I’m not surprised that people here don’t like the jam (I don’t either) but I am sort of surprised this is viewed as a check. Would have thought a smaller bet would be best.

I do like checking though, the more I think about it. I feel like in general I am pretty good about finding the right spots to check with marginal value hands but I guess I blanked here.

I think you can probably draw a line based on how well you know the villain tendencies.

But the main thing is that when they check turn and river you can get similar value from hands you are ahead of while getting a free draw when you are behind.

Jam and get TT to fold.



Much prefer shoving any hands with a J (maybe just JJ?)

Even without As it's difficult for V to have a worse hand that calls, as almost your entire 3bet range now beats JT.

Wow were you at this table with me?! Or just a good read? I know that you play at MS sometimes.

Wasn't gonna post results till tomorrow but Villain did tank fold TT to my jam. Really bad fold obviously, not something I would have believed if he hadn't turned his cards face up. Once he tanked for a while, I figured I had the best hand but then he started talking about how he thought I had turned a two outer against him and I realized I was being nit-rolled. But then he folded somehow??

Weird hand. Clearly I made a mistake here and got lucky that Villain made what I think is an egregiously nitty fold.

I wouldn't be happy with TT against a 3-bettor who could have KK, QQ, maybe AJ, but it is not a fold.

If you were OOP, I would jam, as you are 14% against TT, 27%+ against 2-pair, and I would not want to x/f. Jam can't be that bad, as you have significant equity when behind, might occasionally get a better hand to fold, deny equity or get a worse hand to call, and plus you won't get bluffed off the best hand on the river. I don't think it was a big mistake.

Yeh, you were seat 1 and I was seat 3 (the guy who snap said he'd like to buy TT from the folder -- also did a kind of fancy/weird play when you 3bet just before you left).


FWIW, and I know it seems a little results/etc. after your post, you acted almost immediately and my read was that you were planning on shoving a lot of turns and didn't think too much about the K hitting ... so I ruled out KK as most people would reevaluate when they hit the two outer, and I wasn't sure you'd plan that with QQ/AJ (if you even 3bet AJ) either.
So I assumed all AA with at least some AK (wasn't sure if you'd just bluff shove it on the turn, and having top pair didn't change much) and KQ if you 3bet that. Maybe JJ.


At the time I was mostly amused because I thought I knew a lot of what was going on but I'm pretty sure I never win the hand as you.

That makes sense, that’s who I figured you were! I believe you played at 1/2 with my twin brother on Sunday as well. I recognized you to his left and texted him that you were clearly a good player.

Really appreciate the feedback on the read you picked up on me as well. It makes sense to me that I give off timing tells like that. Something to work on for sure.

The fancy play was interesting to me as well. I actually thought about that spot for a while afterwards.

Its crazy how another perspective changes things. I remember some dude called in CLP about a hand that i was at the table on and the guy described Vilain as a pro when he was actually the whale of the table lol

Ive played at mohegan and the omc’s are incredibly nitty so ya probably a overplay by op but somehow it worked out. Lol @ TT folding

Yeah, I guess another thing to realize here is that if Villain is folding TT to this jam, he is never calling with a worse hand that AA lol. So this would be a total failure as a value jam. I'm certainly familiar with the nitty Mohegan player type. Probably needed to keep that in mind a bit more clearly in this hand, even if this villain wasn't necessarily an OMC himself. Villain in this hand also made a big deal about how he had put me on KK from pre-flop which is what influenced him to make the hero fold.

As I get more hours at 2/5, I'm looking forward to having a better understanding of how certain guys play as well as the tendencies of the player pool in general. Right now I am only playing very short sessions to get my feet wet. I left this table pretty early. Was happy to book a small win and this table didn't strike me as a particularly good opportunity for me. I also had the hand from this thread on my mind, having realized I made a mistake on the turn and that I should have been stacked.

I don't know why people are talking about this as way ahead, way behind. OP has 6 outs against a set with and more against 2 pair, as the board can pair one of the cards viilain doesn't have. Villain can also have all sorts of draws, combo draws, pair and draw etc. So I like the push. Weird villain was a fish who folded a set. You aren't expecting that, but still shove.

I love this. Two posters i like who dont know each other now know each other from posting a hand. Small world

Yeah if he's folding sets I love the shove lol.

I wouldn't expect a better hand to fold. However, we have significant equity if behind and villain can have draws, pair plus draw etc. that we don't want to draw for free.

AA is going to get wrecked so often here.

Pre and flop are fine. I might size up a little bit pre, and size down a little bit on flop, but those are subtle nuances.

Once V calls flop, we're in no-man's-land on this turn card. I just want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible now, so I'd be checking back a lot, or just betting small again.

V is going to be trapping so many 2P and straight combos. He'll also have a ton of high-equity draws. I wouldn't expect many sets here, but they're not outside the realm of possibility. This is a spot where we should be playing pot control.