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Did I miss out on max value? Did I miss out on max value?

04-18-2021 , 05:41 PM
1/3 no limit 6 handed

Bought in for 300 and after first orbit table seems tight and full of regulars. Table probably views me as recreational but not sure? I did raise with trash on the button and caught a full house on the river right before this hand.... 600 effective.

Older guy who plays on the tighter side raises to 20

Hero re raises to 75 from hi jack with KK and villian is the only caller. Pot 150


Flop is 5 7 9

Villian checks and Hero checks behind for deception. I put Villian on an overpair with his original open to 20 and a quick call but with him checking this type of flop added ace king/ace queen into my thoughts.

Turn 6 pot $150

Villian now leads for $100. I think about it and call.

River 6 pot $350

Villian leads for $150. I think about it for awhile and just call. Villian flips over JJ and my KK is good to take down the pot. I thought the 6's pairing on the river was good for my overpair. My question is did I leave about $200 in value on the table not going all in on river? If I'm calling the 150 should I just be jamming in the additonal 200 more? With the $150 bet I thought he may of had a slow played non 4 bet aces but I think it was an oddly played hand by me though looking back my check back on the flop probably made him think his JJ was good. Flame away.
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04-18-2021 , 05:58 PM
I hate checking this flop. Pot is $150, you have $525 behind and should be going for all of it. You will get called with club draws and over pairs, I make it $100, planning to bet turn and jam river on this dream run out.

AP I don't jam river because I can't see anything I beat calling me.

Yes you lost value in this specific hand with your weird line. I'd do this with maybe A9ss. KK is too much in your value range to check and the board can easily kill your action/handing out free cards is bad.
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04-18-2021 , 07:45 PM
Hard to get stacks in unless you bet the flop. Too many cards that can kill your action. No reason to give an AQ type hand a free shot at an ace. Need to bet the flop. If you go bet-bet-bet the whole way, you might get V to stack off, and even if you don't, you should get 2 streets with the 2nd street being bigger than $150. So yes I think you did lose some value on the hand.

To answer your question, no. Going all in on the river will only get called by a better hand.
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04-18-2021 , 10:07 PM
Classic display of FPS "Fancy Play Syndrome". You got a big hand and then squandered it trying to play tricky. You've been at this table for 30 seconds, you have no reads and they dont have any perception of you. Someone called a 3bet, that means PP's and draws. This is a drawy board, you have to bet. Anything as weak as TT is at least going to call the flop cbe, and none of the draws will ever fold. You could have got it allin by the river targeting either and probably won it all.
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04-18-2021 , 11:13 PM
Don't like the flop check. Bet here plenty of value from TT-QQ which are likely in his raise/call pre-flop range, as well as denying equity to two Broadway clubs (which might also be in his range).

As played, the small river bet looks weakish, but if we think there's an reasonable chance of 99 or 88 in his range, or a slower played AA, call is good.
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04-19-2021 , 11:18 AM
I might raise slightly larger preflop (if I can get away with it) just to lessen the IO a bit (since we'll pretty much be forced to stack off postflop). Our sizing offered 11:1 IO, whereas I prefer 8:1, but depends how conservative you are / risk you are willing to take.

SPR is 3.5 so we're stacking off. Pretty decent chance this dude has a smaller overpair. So I probably go very large on the flop because I'm not convinced he's going to fold to one bet from us, and hopefully he'll feel committed to get the rest in on a non-scary turn. A PSB leaves us with $375 into $450 on the turn, so that's what I would do at a minimum. Wouldn't hate like $180 to leave us $345 into $510.

Really dislike our check as half the deck can be action killers, as future streets show.

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04-19-2021 , 06:14 PM
As everyone else has said the flop is like giving this hand AIDS. Really just lighting money on fire. Against a tighter ranged V this flop should be bet 100% of the time. AP I do like a river jam. V could easily get stubborn as you’re repping a whiffed AK bluff.

Other than preflop the hand looks like it was played scared, not deceptively.
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