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05-27-2011 , 08:57 AM
Villian is a guy I've played with at the borgata. He's fairly loose preflop, will bluff, but also make good value bets. Pretty solid thinking player. Which is the only reason I made the following play. Earlier he made a 17 dollar raise with 9-3dd a short stack shoved for 45 and he called, and won with two pair. Extremely spewy play, but that is fairly rare for him.

Hero~ 800 shown down some sick hands
Villian~300

Hero is BB with 6-7dd.

He makes a 16 dollar raise in early position, I call.

Flop is Jh-8h-7c

I check, he checks behind.

Turn is 8c.

I bet 32. He raises to 95.

A player like him would likely not check a set/straight or even a FD on the flop.

I figured I could call, but theres many river cards that will be tough to bluff oop.

I went all in after a good 30-45 seconds. He insta mucked.

Now I would have never made this play if my image was spewy, or against an old nit, but I feel like I did a fine job in analyzing board texture and how he would play certain hands.

Thoughts?
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05-27-2011 , 09:06 AM
Youre read that his line makes no sense is correct. So I guess it`s not a bad play to shove there.

Youre read that this guy is solid, is incorrect.
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05-27-2011 , 09:09 AM
is this a level?
obv u made a good play you got him to fold and won the pot....
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05-27-2011 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyistheMotive
is this a level?
obv u made a good play you got him to fold and won the pot....
results-oriented thinking relevel?

I think it's a pretty high variance play. His line definitely is odd, but he also reps 8x pretty well, which is certainly in his range do to his opening frequency. Do you think he ever checks the flop with Jx or QQ-AA, 2-pair, 99-1010?
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05-27-2011 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Derk
Youre read that this guy is solid, is incorrect.
this.

and if he's that loose preflop you can 3bet that hand pf.
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05-27-2011 , 09:49 AM
Fold pre.

Why do we want to play a solid thinking player HU, OOP with 7 high? This is the polar opposite to how you should be exploiting people who make huge raises pre with too wide a range.

I like your thought process son the turn to some extent but he can easily check an 8 OTF.
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05-27-2011 , 10:32 AM
Don't give the results of the hand op... you will never get unbiased answers if you tell us he folded to your shove. for instance, if you told us that he snapped your shove with a8 that would dramatically change the answers in this thread. fold pre as has been mentioned, no reason to play a hu pot with 76 against a solid player. i think the turn shove has merits... if you believe he will bet almost all big hands on the flop (sets, straight) then he only really reps 8x and i then like the shove
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05-27-2011 , 10:38 AM
In the 93dd hand, where there any limpers in front of him, what was his position etc? If its on the button with a few limpers in front its a different story then him open raising utg 93dd.

If he open raised 93dd in early to middle position then 8x is in his range.

Also is this 1/2 or 2/5?
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05-27-2011 , 11:07 AM
For playing speculative hands like this preflop, I usually want at least a few of the following things going for me; multi-way, in position, decent stack sizes, poor players, etc. By the sounds of it, we've only got one thing going for us (stack sizes is okish); everything else sucks. We should have lots of better opportunities than this, so I just muck preflop and move on to the next hand.

As played, I probably just try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible against an aggressive villain, which means check/calling (especially after villain checks the flop) and hoping villain spews off chips.

I don't think I'm a fan of the bet/shove because now we've just committed 100 BB with third pair / weak kicker on a paired board. We've got a very small hand and just created a huge pot. Plus the shove likely never gets called by worse nor folds better.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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05-27-2011 , 11:23 AM
I think it folds out a few better hands like 99, 1010, Jrag (?).

Any 9-10-j-k-q-a on the river is going to put us in a tough spot if he bets. His reraise on the turn reps nothing but 8x. I don`t see villain show up with 8x here a lot, and I think he will C-bet the flop if he hits any of it (thus also 8x).

I like OP`s line postflop. I agree with fold pre.
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