2/5 NL 9 handed.
V in this hand is relatively inexperienced, yet displays a reasonable understanding of basic strat; is on the 'ABC/by the book', approach,
not the 'get in there and gamble it up' approach, as far as i can tell. not tricky in the least.
V has been running super hot over the last hour, and has amassed a giant stack by getting monsters paid off over and over.

My image is winning/ solid, and tighter than the rest of the table, which isn't saying much.

V2 is a decent young player, prob internet background, on the nitty side.
My stack is $850

V2 stack is @$400 (this hand is from @ 4 months ago.)
V way covers.

I open raise AK to $30 from MP
V virtually minbets to $65
alarm bells go off, coming from a str8fwd plyr, and i hate my hand, and am planning to muck,
then V2 calls OTB, and it seems like a really wierd play coming from him.
thinking we may have the same hand?
anyways, I make prob the worst mistake in the entire hand, and call, knowing that i have virtually the worst hand to be calling in this spot, and that my IOs suck.

pot $200
flop J53
I check, V bets $200, totally confidently.
It's obv what he has to me, minimum KK IMO, that was my read.
^^^(sacrelige putting villians on exact holdings, lol.)^^^
V2 tanks, and folds.

pot is $400, I have $785,
so I ship, making it $585 to him to call to win the $1185 in the pot, thinking that he can't call without the A
in his hand, which he can only have if it's a fouled deck.
I'm repping JJ /AQ
at the time, i was thinking the PTS ratios were good for the move,
but he's getting 2:1.
what do you think?
did I lose my mind?
I was on tilt, even though i was winner in the session.

Well considering hes been crushing he may have winners tilt..thinking he's best it'll work out. If he has kk or AA do you think he's folding that often??

I mean its great you have the Ac so that leaves kk there to call off with the Kc obviously. ...considering how confident he is and.inexperienced I probably don't.like it...but I guess you can say the same to like it.

I think its a great semi bluff. I occasionally do this vs opponents I have been sitting with for awhile. Your opponent can't call. If he does he is a donk. He needs to read the book again. If he calls with KK. But I doubt he has KK or AA. Since you hold blockers to those hands.

When there's clear pot commitment, like in this spot, I like to just pretend villain shoves flop. If you just call the 200, pot will be 600 and villain will have less than 200 behind. If you check, you have to call a shove since you're getting the right odds.

So pot is $200, he bets $335 (he is the $400 stack to start right?!?). You're getting 1.6-1, I'd say you have 12 outs here, so you're a 1.4-1 underdog for both cards.

I'd c/rai or open shove flop.

If he has KK+, you're only a 42/58 underdog. You're shoving $785 to win $1185 and only need 40% equity. With some FE, this is a good shove. He should call, but if he does, you both made the right play. It happens.

Cali ur using the term blocker wrong...again

ya, at the time i felt like i had too much equity to fold,
and thought some of it was FE.
he did tank forever, so apparantly i did.

odds calculator puts me at 37%
so its never horribad?
i also have runner runner to a chop,
there i go on split pots again!

seems like i'm the only one ITT who doesnt like it, regardless of whether i binked or not.
2 reasons:
1] V is on a heater=not folding what is most certainly AA/KK.
2] it's unnessesary, and not really the game plan for beating this type of villian, they afford you so many spots w/ a huge edge, why scrap for slight, or non-existant ones?

I refer number two as winners tilt

abc villains dont bet pot and then fold, so not sure how much fold equity you have.

I really dislike both the preflop opening size, and the call of the 3-bet (against this particular nitty abc villain)

I fold pre.

I'd love to read this post from the Villains POI if he has KK with a club and without. The start of the post would read as if he is in cruise control and then suddenly the all-in check raise for $585.

Either way this hand goes I think it is a great aggressive play. You've definitely put the hard decision on your opponent.

This

I wouldnt think of this spot as a semibluff but more a spot where ur just forced to stick it in and gamble. V is gonna tank-call every time but u have too much equity to c/f.

Also agree with folding pre.

And was ur 6x open standard for the table? Seems like a size that would normally discourage dominated A-x hands from calling.

fold pre

as played snap shove flop, KcKx is def looking us up and QQc likely is too but we have a lot of FE and equity regardless, his range is capped at one pair really

I tend to agree w this.
I thought I had FE at the time,
but in retrospect, he is never folding AA/KK.
First, I really need to have another pot sized bet behind to make it a viable bluff in a 3-bet pot. That means being 250bb plus deep.
Secondly, Abc plyr on a heater is never folding AA/KK regardless of board texture/ my image/ action in the hand.
He's way too likely to get stuck in level one thinking.
In other words, to him, I might as well be shoving w/ AhJh,
because I'm really repping nothing, because he prob doesn't care what I have.
I had no reason to think that he's capable of making laydowns.

In a vacuum, on paper, it's a decent, if not terrible play.
In reality, w actual context, and reads, it's SPEW, and a lot less than optimal in LLS.

This is what I've talked about here before, about bluffing sucking ass as a strategy in LLS.
Villians like this are just way too common.
It's insane to do what I did IMO,
put someone on AA/KK and try to bluff them,
especially when they are prob of the rush of thier life.

tbh i think its more bad-reg players who dont play for a living that cant fold AA

ppl who dont play much are more aware of the value of money and the "holy **** this is 600$ and i could be nearly dead" factor

A lot better than flat calling when he's shoving his whole range on the turn and you have no FE. Fold pre is probably best. I think he calls you more often than you do, but even if he calls you every time it's a slightly +EV play (with his entire range).